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RM, Fall of Constantinople → Conquest of Constantinople, Withdrawn, 21 November 2019

Unit conversion

> weighing 500 kilograms (1,100 lb) over 1.5 kilometres (0.93 mi)

If you do not have data that those projectiles which broke the Theodosian Walls were thrown for 1.497km (or so), and weighed 498.9kg (or so), then those "500 kilograms" are "1000 pounds", and "1.5 kilometres" are "1 mile" - because "500 kilograms" and "1.5 kilometres" clearly look like approximations

Serbians

There are no valid sources talking about 1500 imaginary Serbian Cavalry helping in the battle. Why has it still not been removed? Even if there were Serbs taking part in the battle they were taking part as Ottoman Janissaries.

Fall of Constantinople Inaccuracy

Four days later, the whole city was blotted out by a thick fog, a condition unknown in that part of the world in May. When the fog lifted that evening, a strange light was seen playing about the dome of the Hagia Sophia, which some interpreted as the Holy Spirit departing from the city. "This evidently indicated the departure of the Divine Presence, and its leaving the City in total abandonment and desertion, for the Divinity conceals itself in cloud and appears and again disappears."

This paragraph is wrong. They thought they were being punished by god because the Hagia Sophia was being struck by lightning - the dome had copper at the top.

A severed head that was claimed to belong to Byzantine Emperor Constantine XI Palaiologos was found and presented to Mehmed and nailed onto a column. While standing before the head, the sultan in his speech said: Fellow soldiers, this one thing was lacking to make the glory of such a victory complete. Now, at this happy and joyful moment of time, we have the riches of the Greeks, we have won their empire, and their religion is completely extinguished. Our ancestors eagerly desired to achieve this; rejoice now since it is your bravery which has won this kingdom for us.

I believe this to be inaccurate and islamophobic. Destan Topalli (talk) 01:53, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Byzantien Rump States at the infobox.

I would appreciate it if User:Beshogur could explain here the reason why he keeps deleting this information from the infobox. All these small states were successors to the Eastern Roman/Byzantine empire and are thus mentioned here as having survived a bit longer until their own conquests. Deleting this just because you claim that ‘’no one cares about it’’ is not a valid argument. Highly recommend you to first discuss this intead of edit warring. Woxic1589 (talk) 14:20, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

So you find it appropriate to put conquests in 1460, 1461, 1475 and 1479 about a conflict in 1453? The page is about the fall of Constantinople in 1453, not Ottoman conquest of Byzantine Empire and its rump states. Beshogur (talk) 15:48, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

My point was that these were all the remnants/successor states of the Byzantines themselves. Its not a ‘‘irrelevant’’ thing at all to mention on this page/infobox. Woxic1589 (talk) 16:34, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's irrelevant in that way since the page is only about the siege. 1460 is 7 years later. It's like calling WW1 is ended, but fighting continues in Anatolia. Beshogur (talk) 18:03, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]