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Le Pays, June 17, 1864

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An inhabitant of the planet Mars (Henri de Parville) (fr: art.) "Synopsis: Des savants découvrent, aux États-Unis, près du Pic James dans le Kansas, un aérolithe provenant de la planète Mars = Scientists discover, in the United States, near James Peak in Kansas, an aerolith from the planet Mars." - is not a relevant inclusion - no UFO included - is id'd before extraterr. discovered.

"Ce canular se prolonge pendant six mois = This hoax lasted for six months" Autour de l’œuvre=wikipedia & "Initially written in 1864 as a hoax by the science correspondent of the French newspaper Le Pays" blackcoatpress.com (𒌋*𓆏)𓆭 23:47, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 27 June 2025

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Extraterrestrial UFO hypothesisExtraterrestrial hypothesis – Proposed by User:Onemillionthtree Feoffer (talk) 06:40, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@ජපස: The reason for the page move I found is: WP:NC is actually policy "Wikipedia:Article titles": Use commonly recognizable names: WP:UCRN: "Wikipedia does not necessarily use the subject's official name as an article title; it generally prefers the name that is most commonly used (as determined by its prevalence in a significant majority of independent, reliable, English-language sources)" @ 03:49, 27 June 2025 (5th block down) (𒌋*𓆏)𓆭 04:29, 27 June 2025 (UTC) "If you make a Google Books search of both v. - no returns of ETUFOH on the 1st page. Return "ETH" on 1st (𒌋*𓆏)𓆭 04:23, 27 June 2025 (UTC)" (𒌋*𓆏)𓆭 04:32, 27 June 2025 (UTC) the searches were long-form not the abbreviations. (𒌋*𓆏)𓆭 04:33, 27 June 2025 (UTC) "04:23" is toward the foot / base / bottom / end (currently) of the discussion. (𒌋*𓆏)𓆭 04:36, 27 June 2025 (UTC). Sensibly I would think "Usage of the term" doesn't show ET UFO H would therefore necessitate the term to commence - or the sense "term" is made confused / conflictual. This would imperatize - finding sources to indicate "the term" is ET UFO H - though G.Books didn't have any. (𒌋*𓆏)𓆭 04:39, 27 June 2025 (UTC) At least on the 1st page. (𒌋*𓆏)𓆭 04:40, 27 June 2025 (UTC) No returns until page 13: Henry Stevens · 2012 (no page number) Adventures Unlimited Press "Henry Stevens Bibliographer" (Google Books) isn't the author. inauthor:"Henry Stevens" - the Google link isn't also - (lists works of "Biblio-") (𒌋*𓆏)𓆭 05:08, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Retrun for ETH: p.3 "independent scholar" has an email "harvard" "Keywords" (base / foot of page) Wiley (publisher) editor: Octavio Alfonso Chon Torres, PhD is a Professor at the Universidad de Lima, Doctor in Philosophy, Doctor(c) in Education, Master in Epistemology, and Philosopher; president and founder of the Asociación Peruana de Astrobiología (𒌋*𓆏)𓆭 05:08, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Onemillionthtree: You should follow the instructions listed here to add a template. Feoffer (talk) 05:17, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"Extraterrestrial Hypothesis" is indeed far more WP:COMMON than "Extraterrestrial UFO Hypothesis". I'm not familiar with the phrase being used outside of Wikipedia, but it's a helpful explanatory addition, especially on the Interdimensional UFO hypothesis. Feoffer (talk) 05:14, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"it's a helpful explanatory addition" isn't necessary - is shown in the first sentence that ETH is with regards to UFO. Any search of ETUFOH would redirect to ETH so the problem of "helpful" doesn't need the solution - which is against the common usage - policy indicates "generally" - if the article shows ETUFOH this mis-directs researchers and readers who could want to proceed with there investigation - if all (the most i.e. "common") are returns from ETH not much help showing any other v. Also should I or anyone think that a different v. i.e. ETUFOH is better / more helpful / preferntial - this is in contrary to university sources which wouldn't very much provide credence - how to evaluate a sense of preference. (𒌋*𓆏)𓆭 05:39, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If nobody else wants the word "UFO" in the title, I certainly won't miss it. Feoffer (talk) 06:43, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Though, I forgot, could be: Extraterrestrial hypothesis (ufology) obvs. since the multi page with pans. prob. necessitated. Helps to see the whole dilemma nestled into a subject - more secure - legitimizes - is the "compromise" suggested by WP:CONSENSUS as indic. by SI09's pointer. (𒌋*𓆏)𓆭 07:41, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I withdraw my request - this is because: I found a verification for ETUFOH so it is now the lead. Alternatively I did read "Concise" is a condition of NC - but ETH was first (at least by current source indication) so ETUFOH a later development - would favour the modern v.. As an aftethought: Minerals Latu Sensu and Human Health - Google Books Celso Gomes, ‎Michel Rautureau · 2021 "extraterrestrial hypothesis" is "panspermia hypothesis" - in the context of "life on Earth" - so a dual / diambiguation for ETH except "pans." art.=wikipedia is pans.="life in the Universe" - so is complex doesn't show specifically - I couldn't make the necessary changes at this time. (𒌋*𓆏)𓆭 07:30, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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