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William J. Blenko
[edit]Most of the history section is about William J. Blenko before the company started. Should William J. Blenko have his own page or should that be deleted? Tripnoted (talk) 01:46, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
- Working on a big "redo" in my sandbox. TwoScars (talk) 16:38, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
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Big Redo
[edit]This Wikipedia article was changed substantially on December 11, 2024. Although the new version may seem larger than the typical article, it is necessary because so-called "facts" about the company are often wrong or misleading. TwoScars (talk) 17:04, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
Flat Glass
[edit]Reading this article, one will notice that there is no mention of flat-glass making during the 21st century. None of the newspaper articles from that time mention flat glass. During my tour of the factory, I did not see any flat glass being made. I later did some original research in November 2024-this is why it is not mentioned in the article-by contacting Blenko concerning flat glass. Their response was that they are not producing flat glass because of the overwhelming orders for tableware. They currently cannot produce both at once. They hope to return to producing flat glass in the future, but no plans have been made. TwoScars (talk) 17:11, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
GA Review
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Nominator: TwoScars (talk · contribs) 20:05, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
Reviewer: Reconrabbit (talk · contribs) 20:41, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
Hello again. It seems I keep coming back to your articles on glass. I won't be able to immediately start working through this thoroughly but hope to provide you with adequate feedback over the course of a few days. -- Reconrabbit 20:41, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- I made some changes to the text here and will continue to do so until I hit a roadblock, which I will note. -- Reconrabbit 13:52, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- Never had any problems with your changes or rewording. TwoScars (talk) 16:28, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- After much delay from no one particular source I've finished this review. Thanks for your efforts. -- Reconrabbit 15:15, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- Never had any problems with your changes or rewording. TwoScars (talk) 16:28, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
Prose
[edit]- William H. Blenko Jr. had joined the company in 1946—a third generation of the Blenko family This is a slightly obscure way of saying that Jr. is the son of William H. Blenko, who is referred to as Sr. in the previous section but not here. Could be edited or trimmed to clarify, since this is made more obvious in the following paragraph.
- Made some changes, open to any suggestions. TwoScars (talk) 18:57, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- "dalle de verre" could be translated in its first use ("lit. 'slab of glass'"?).\
- Added note with translation, and wikilinked "dalle de verre". Sentence already mentions that it is a "thick slab type of glass". TwoScars (talk) 19:29, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- The completion of the tourist facility enabled William H. Blenko Sr., chairman of the board of Blenko Glass, to realize his wish of a visitor center. Is "tourist facility" another way of referring to the visitor center? Maybe this would make more sense if it was established Blenko Sr. was interested in the idea before this paragraph, where it's already known that the center was built.
- Will work on this tomorrow. My thinking was that I did not want to say "visitor center" twice in one sentence. I also wanted to "sneak in" the fact that Blenko Sr died and Blenko Jr became company president. Maybe the first paragraph sentence should be: William H. Blenko's wish for a visitor center became reality when the center was dedicated in 1966. The second paragraph's first sentence could be: Blenko died nearly three years after the visitor center dedication on March 11, 1969. Might also be better to tie the last sentence back to the visitor center somehow—stained glass is on display there (see the picture further down). TwoScars (talk) 21:19, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- I see your reasoning for writing it that way originally. "The center" is an unambiguous way to refer to it and makes sense. That's my main issue with it right now - that it might be referring to some other tourist facility besides the Visitor Center. -- Reconrabbit 15:43, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- Changed the first sentence in the first paragraph to: William H. Blenko's wish for a visitor center became reality when the center was dedicated in 1966. The first sentence of the second paragraph now reads: Blenko died on March 11, 1969, only three years after the visitor center dedication. TwoScars (talk) 19:40, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- I see your reasoning for writing it that way originally. "The center" is an unambiguous way to refer to it and makes sense. That's my main issue with it right now - that it might be referring to some other tourist facility besides the Visitor Center. -- Reconrabbit 15:43, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- Will work on this tomorrow. My thinking was that I did not want to say "visitor center" twice in one sentence. I also wanted to "sneak in" the fact that Blenko Sr died and Blenko Jr became company president. Maybe the first paragraph sentence should be: William H. Blenko's wish for a visitor center became reality when the center was dedicated in 1966. The second paragraph's first sentence could be: Blenko died nearly three years after the visitor center dedication on March 11, 1969. Might also be better to tie the last sentence back to the visitor center somehow—stained glass is on display there (see the picture further down). TwoScars (talk) 21:19, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- Additional documentaries were produced years later, such as "Blenko Retro: Three Designers of American Glass" and "Blenko - Spirit of American Stained Glass". Are these just two examples of later documentaries about Blenko? It might be useful to provide all of the works produced about it. A search brought up "Blenko Glass: The Collectors" and "Blenko Glass: Behind the Scenes" as well.
- Will work on that tomorrow. TwoScars (talk) 21:09, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- Documentaries now listed are: Hearts of Glass, Blenko Retro, Spirit of American Stained Glass, Behind the Scenes, Creating Iowa Sunrise, and The Collectors. These are the PBS and IowaPBS docs listed in newspapers. Not listed are a couple of YouTube videos: "A Brief History of Blenko Glass in the Swedish Tradition with Dean Six" and "Blenko Glass Company - Factory Tour: After Hours". I tried using a link to YouTube long ago in External links for Indiana Glass Company, but it got removed. TwoScars (talk) 21:46, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- which can be viewed by reviewing the company catalogs posted on the company web site. This could probably be omitted.
- Sentence now says: Blenko Glass Company has made numerous products. TwoScars (talk) 20:01, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- Is the "flamboyantly" descriptor (for Wayne Husted) a direct quote?
- Source text says: Blenko was unique at the time in allowing its designers a free rein, and it was Husted who set the trend for the flamboyant coloured decanters with which the firm is still associated today. I have no problem using "lively colored" or "vibrantly colored" in place of "colored flamboyantly" (or anything else) if you think my text is too much like the source. TwoScars (talk) 20:21, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- Maybe I'm just confused here but does by 2016 he was in his tenth year of designing Blenko glassware that commemorates West Virginia Day mean that the only thing Bayliss did for Blenko from 2006 to 2016 was design West Virginia Day glass?
- I will reword that. A sentence from the June 7, 2016, newspaper article says: In his 10th year of designing the celebration piece, Arlon Bayliss described the vase as a nod to West Virginia's fishing patronage. His LinkedIn site says he was a designer at Blenko Glass Company from March 2007 to September 2016, and he was also a professor and director of the glass program at Anderson University from July 1990 to July 2014, when he became an emeritus professor. TwoScars (talk) 20:42, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- The same newspaper article says: He is a professor of art and design at Anderson University in Indiana. TwoScars (talk) 20:59, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- It now says: Another designer was Arlon Bayliss, who worked for nearly ten years for Blenko while also working as a professor of art and design at Anderson University. By 2016 he was in his tenth year of designing Blenko glassware that commemorates West Virginia Day. TwoScars (talk) 20:59, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
That's all I have to note. Article otherwise follows Manual of Style for major layout decisions.
- I think I am all caught up unless you still have some issues in the prose section. Saturday and Sunday will be difficult for me to find time to look at this. TwoScars (talk) 21:52, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
References
[edit]- Layout: Well-formatted without obvious errors or accessibility issues.
Spot checking
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"metal" can be specified as "cast iron" molds, though.
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"A Family Name in Glass" looks to be usable for other claims as well, though it could use a different quote here (possibly "Working with filmmaker Deborah Novak, who has directed several documentary films about Blenko glass, Richard has begun to realize his dream").
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- Should be able to read the Newspaper Archive newspapers via the Wikipedia Library. I also use Library of Congress. TwoScars (talk) 19:44, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- That's true. I'll check those if they come up. -- Reconrabbit 05:36, 11 May 2025 (UTC)+
- Should be able to read the Newspaper Archive newspapers via the Wikipedia Library. I also use Library of Congress. TwoScars (talk) 19:44, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
Scope
[edit]- Broad: Having covered the history of the company and the prominent figures associated with it, as well as recent developments, this looks thorough enough to meet the criteria.
- Narrow: Aside from the history, which is thoroughly covered, useful details on the designers, relevant products, process and premises are included, as well as independent coverage of works about the company.
Stability
[edit]- Neutrality: There is little evidence of bias towards the subject,
though there is one note (above in Prose) that addresses treatment of designers under the Selected products and designers heading. - Edit warring: Little to no activity from editors besides the nominator, the clear primary contributor. No instability to note.
Images
[edit]- Free/Fair use:
- File:Blenko Logo.png has complete fair use rationale.
- File:Map of the Indiana natural gas field with Kokomo circled and state inset.png, File:BlenkoAntiqueArtGlassCompany.png, File:BlenkoAd1917.png, File:EurekaArtGlass1926.png, File:CarboneImporter.png: Public domain.
- File:Blenko Williamsburg.jpg, File:Blenko glassware ruby and clearCropped.jpg, File:Blenko384IceBlue.jpg, File:Blenko colored glass used by Franklin Art Glass Studios to make a stained glass window.jpg, File:Blenko384waterbottle.jpg, File:Blenko 384 water bottle planet mercury colors.jpg, File:BlenkoWAnderson.jpg, File:BlenkoLimitedEdition.jpg: Photos from GA nominator. Licensed as public domain.
- File:BlenkoFactory1944InsMap.png should be public domain but is marked CC BY 4.0
- Added {{PD-US-no notice}} at the suggestion of the WikiMedia Village pump/Copyright. I don't think there is a good tag to use. The LOC simply says "The content of the Library of Congress online Sanborn Maps Collection is in the public domain and is free to use and reuse." The map is from 1944, so I don't think {{PD-Old}} works. TwoScars (talk) 20:58, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- That makes sense. I wasn't certain about it since 1944 is a bit late for these works to be public domain. -- Reconrabbit 15:43, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- Added {{PD-US-no notice}} at the suggestion of the WikiMedia Village pump/Copyright. I don't think there is a good tag to use. The LOC simply says "The content of the Library of Congress online Sanborn Maps Collection is in the public domain and is free to use and reuse." The map is from 1944, so I don't think {{PD-Old}} works. TwoScars (talk) 20:58, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- File:Blenko Glass Visitor Center.jpg Appropriate license, details look OK.
- Relevance:
- The 384 Water Bottles are depicted twice, and they aren't especially relevant to the Great Recession.
- Will replace the image tomorrow with a discretionary product (a vase). TwoScars (talk) 21:08, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- Replaced water bottle image with an art glass vase—a discretionary consumer good. Discretionary products, and their decrease in demand during recessions, are mentioned in the section's second paragraph. TwoScars (talk) 18:53, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- Images have alt-text for the most part—a good practice.
- Will make sure all images have alt-text tomorrow.
- All images, except in the InfoBox that does not have a place for it, have alt-text. TwoScars (talk) 18:53, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- Meant to state here that there was alt-text on every image when the review was started, which can be rare in good article candidates. Thanks -- Reconrabbit 20:38, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
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