Talk:Bay Bridge Series

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On 19 August 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved to Athletics–Giants rivalry. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

First Meeting

The first meeting should not include when the Philadelphia Athletics and New York Giants first played eachother. Wolf O'Donnel (talk) 23:09, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Request for comment on shading of MLB rivalry tables

A request for comment has been open which may impact this page. Please review here. Frank Anchor 23:01, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Eventually) moving page to "Athletics–Giants rivalry"

Requested move 19 August 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) RodRabelo7 (talk) 23:43, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bay Bridge Series → Athletics–Giants rivalry – The rivalry between the two teams will still exist in the short term (at least through 2027), though the scope of the rivalry will be zoomed out from the Bay Area (San Francisco/Oakland) to that of Northern California (San Francisco/Sacramento), being that the A's will play in West Sacramento for at least the next 3 seasons. By changing the name of the page to only include the team names, the scope of the article can better accommodate the new SF/Sacramento reality beginning next year.

The Bay Bridge Series is now firmly in the past, but maybe the page move should be delayed until the two teams meet again (whether that be moving the page on the day of the next game of May 16, 2025 or before Spring Training 2025). Alternatively, maybe it's better for it to be effective immediately since the "Bay Bridge Series" is now in the past. Spesh531^{(talk, contrib., ext.)} 21:30, 19 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 13:26, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support – proposed title has consistency with similar articles, such as Yankees–Red Sox rivalry, Dodgers–Yankees rivalry, Cubs–White Sox rivalry, et al. And I see no need to delay into next year, as Bay Bridge Series would redirect to the new title. Dmoore5556 (talk) 23:27, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: WikiProject Baseball and WikiProject California/San Francisco Bay Area task force have been notified of this discussion. Aprilajune (talk) 02:27, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to 1989 World Series. Support if that means the first meeting should include when the Philadelphia Athletics and New York Giants first played eachother. And, yeah, it's "Dodgers–Yankees rivalry" because "subway series" is a sandwich line! LOL wbm1058 (talk) 13:01, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It was honestly this change from yesterday that changed the "First meeting" from the 1905 World Series to the 1989 World Series that prompted me to pose the question of moving the page. WCCasey was correct in his edit to focus the infobox to the "Bay Bridge Series" and remove the mention of 1905 (and remove the Next Meeting: 2025) because that's the current focus of the page, but this rivalry won't end with the Bay Bridge Series so... Spesh531^{(talk, contrib., ext.)} 20:14, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. The Bay Bridge Series had no relationship to any rivalry that may have existed before both teams moved to the Bay Area. Physical proximity created the Bay Bridge rivalry, and there will be no more rivalry after the A's move away. WCCasey (talk) 01:10, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose unless the rivalry continues to exist after the Athletics move to Las Vegas. If the rivalry instead becomes 'historical', the page title, and the whole scope of the article for that matter, should be consistent with the other historical rivalry articles City Series (Philadelphia) and Pearson Cup in MLB, I-5 rivalry in the NBA, Battle of Quebec (ice hockey) in the NHL, and Governor's Cup (Missouri) in the NFL. Zzyzx11 (talk) 16:20, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support Given a rivalry is likely to still exist when they are in Sacramento, before moving to Las Vegas. Also, 49ers-Raiders rivalry exists, despite a team from Oakland relocating to Las Vegas.99.196.129.168 (talk) 18:50, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Separate subjects

I disagree with the beginning statement and premise of this article: "The Athletics–Giants rivalry . . .". The article title is Bay Bridge Series, and the only subject is the Bay Bridge Series. It was a rivalry based exclusively on the geographic proximity of the two teams and their overlapping fan bases. There was no "Athletics–Giants rivalry" before the A's moved to Oakland, and any continuation of that rivalry now that the Athletics are moving to Las Vegas will be only because Bay Area A's fans are not all going to move to Las Vegas. WCCasey (talk) 15:39, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For the same reason, all infobox entries should be restricted to the names/dates/places of the Bay Bridge Series. This article is not about "all time" or current home stadiums. WCCasey (talk) 14:53, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A's stadium

@WCCasey - Regarding your edit here; as we potentially move the article to "Athletics-Giants rivalry" and include stats and information from the 2025 season (after the A's have moved out of Oakland) it makes no sense to not mention their current home ballpark.

We could still mention the Oakland Coliseum in the infobox as

Stadiums	Athletics: Sutter Health Park; formerly Oakland–Alameda County Coliseum

although other rivalry articles don't use this format. Best to get consensus from other editors. MilaKuliž (talk) 19:50, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The article move seems unlikely to happen. If it does, however, it would have to be edited to include current info. WCCasey (talk) 14:42, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I had updated the stadium because 2025 stats have been added which led me to believe that this article is still being updated even after the A's moved out of Oakland. I won't change it again until there is consensus from other editors. MilaKuliž (talk) 02:37, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]