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@Woxic1589 Since you had an issue with the sources being Greek, I left the one source thats in english and written by an American and a Turk.
For future reference, for a battle to be inconclusive, you need to back that claim up, simply not agreeing with the result isnt grounds for it to be "Inconclusive". Inconclusive would be the overall Battle for Nicosia but since there is neither a wiki for this nor is this about that, it doesnt fit. Chumash225 (talk) 17:40, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nowhere in the source you shared does it mention a ‘’Greek victory’’. The advance was eventually halted but the Turks did capture the ELDYK camp, as mentioned with sources on the page itself. Despite the fact that you didn’t reach any consensus and the fact that you ignored the requests to use the talk page until now, you again edited the result without having reached a consensus. You also admitted having used other accounts (because you allegedly couldn’t log in) and yet kept edit warring? Woxic1589 (talk) 17:53, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Halting the attack... I.e. A Greek Victory seen as if you read the sources in the article the Greek goal was to... halt the Turkish assault.
Just so were clear I will disengage as to not cause anymore disruption but youre edit which is basiclaly a strop is not going to remain, you dont have the right to simply remove cross referenced sourced edits to add what you wish happened and THEN want to come to the talk page as you did, what im saying is, you dont get to disrupt then want a democracy. When the edit is reverted to its normal state you may come to the talk page and get whichever consensus you wish. Chumash225 (talk) 19:24, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
+ Sourcing clearly isnt your issue as you originally made a borderline racist comment (Saying that somehow books, some of which are written by university professors are unreliable because theyre Greek), then when I kept another English source which was written by a American and Turkish "subject matter experts" if you will, owing to both their military experience and ones PhD, you still removed it, you clearly just dont like the result and are throwing your weight on this article. Chumash225 (talk) 19:26, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
the result was, as mentioned earlier, inconclusive as the Turks did made some advances and captured the camp. ‘’A Greek Victory seen as if you read the sources in the article the Greek goal was to... halt the Turkish assault’’, thats clearly not the only thing that happened there? Maybe start reading the page itself first as the Turks did capture the camp. You again only mention the goal of one side of the battle, which is in this case the Greek side.
Also, if you are gonna continue with personal attacks, I will have to report you once more. We didn’t remove it just because it was from just one country but due to neutrality. Think twice before accusing other editors of racism. Woxic1589 (talk) 19:38, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure how a Google map search changes anything in this case. And no, this conversation doesn’t end because you said so. A talk page exists for discussions like these. Woxic1589 (talk) 08:55, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Again, im waiting for the cooldown period where I will add the referenced information and then you can come here and discuss whatever you want. Chumash225 (talk) 09:18, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No, thats not how Wikipedia works. You reach an consensus first on the talk page and then can start changing articles/infobox results. You are the one adding content here so its your task to also discuss this with other editors first if they don’t agree with it. And as we can see in the edit history, your edits were also reverted back by two other editors on this page.[1], [2]. And I’m not here to ‘’discuss whatever I want’’, I’m here because of your disruptive editing and the fact that you just ignored multiple requests to stop edit warring in the past few days. You can’t just change the infobox result to a ‘’Greek victory’’ simply because one side claimed to have reached ‘’its goal’’ by halting the offensive in that area. They lost the camp and suffered casualties because of this which makes it a strategic loss on their side as well. If you continue ignoring other editors asking you to reach an consensus first, I will have to report you once again. You are a ‘’new editor’’, so I highly recommend you to read the Wikipedia rules first before starting another edit war. Wikipedia:Dispute resolutionWoxic1589 (talk) 10:06, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You started a edit war, and I’m simply responding to it. If you are not willing to further discuss this to reach an consensus together, then thats your own choice. Woxic1589 (talk) 09:47, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Good luck with that, considering you already got a warning as you are a ‘’new editor’’ here. If you continue ignoring other editors, are not interested in reaching a consensus first at the talk page and then keep adding it back, then I will have to report you once more. Woxic1589 (talk) 13:27, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Who exactly are you trying to gaslight? You removed the edits first, then said the sources werent good enough then when the sources were good enough you still reverted. Im no longer continuing this conversation with you as its fruitless, when the correct edit has been re-added you may bring about your concerns with actual evidence which I have still yet to see you provide and then a consensus can be reached. Have an amazing day. Chumash225 (talk) 19:32, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Also saw another wiki page about a battle in Cyprus where again you removed the "Greek Victory" and added "inconclusive" but another editor reverted your edit thankfully. You're clearly being problematic elsewhere too so this clearly isn't a me problem but it is recurring with battles the TAF have lost. Chumash225 (talk) 19:41, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You have already been caught using IP accounts and editing this same page in a disruptive way (which you also admitted, with the reason being that you ‘couldn’t login to your main account’’). You got a warning for that, without any sanctions/block as you are considered as a ‘’new editor’’. You are again changing the subject by going into my own older edits on a different page that has nothing to do with this one nor has anyone asked you about that. If you are gonna make another personal attack once more, I will report you. You already accused me wrongly of ‘’racism’’, and now you say ‘’ You're clearly being problematic’’? If you are not gonna discuss anymore about the actual topic of this talk page/discussion, then I’m not gonna respond here anymore. And if you continue by accusing me of racism or being ‘’problematic’’, I will simply report you for disrespectful behavior. Thats not how Wikipedia works. I highly recommend you once more to read the actual Wikipedia rules. I have already clearly stated that the result was inconclusive with the reasons/arguments above and underneath this talk page . You can go and ask a third editor for his own opinion here. Just because you added a ‘’source’’, doesn’t mean a consensus has been reached. Woxic1589 (talk) 19:54, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
:::::And the battle for ELDYK camp is a very popular topic when discussing the invasion so by all means make a page about it, but one camp doesnt amount to some form of inconclusive result. Chumash225 (talk) 03:42, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don’t have to make a new page about it simply because you asked to do so as it is already mentioned on this page itself with further details. It was a important camp of the Greek Cypriot Forces, and its loss was a result of this same offensive. And if thats so, then it will have a impact on the result of that offensive. One side won the camp, the side other stopped the offensive in the suburbs of that same area. Woxic1589 (talk) 10:12, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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