Talk:Badr Jafar
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COI tag (March 2021)
[edit]Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard#Pearl_Petroleum,_Crescent_Petroleum,_Gulftainer,_Badr_Jafar Acousmana (talk) 18:45, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
- In October 2024 an account added considerable puffery and removed the COI template, and in April 2025 the template was again removed without justification. It seems COI editing is still an issue at this time. Vegantics (talk) 15:17, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
- It's ceaseless. A COI and sockpuppet investigation should be started into User:Littlestepsforward, User:Eruditalevy, User:Adorablepandas, User:Content Rabbit, User:Trivia Kiwi Nut. This article (along with related articles such as Majid Jafar, Juma Al Majid Holding Group, Crescent Petroleum and Crescent Enterprises) is rife with paid contributors. Thenightaway (talk) 16:39, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
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[edit]Dear wiki-community, please find my sandbox draft for updating the current page. Here is a link Padnetotoigh (talk) 15:26, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Peaceray, @Knatz-12 and @Hocikre, please, review and approve my suggested edits to the article? Padnetotoigh (talk) 13:32, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Padnetotoigh I’ve cleaned up the draft and made the updates to the page Hocikre (talk) 18:15, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
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[edit]I'm just starting a discussion here. I'm not sure if someone will enjoy it. I readded (as I see) some content deleted previously because of COI and puffery issues. I checked the sources and the draft (requested on the talk page), and they are more or less good to go and state the basic information of what was founded, co-founded, etc. Nothing puffery. No one was interested in reviewing, as far as I can see. Hocikre (talk) 12:24, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- It's a glorified CV, rife with sources that are not independent of the subject and not reliable. None of this content is of any interest to our readers. This is rubber-stamping PR firm content that they deceptively edit-warred into the page for years on end and now you're helping them restore it. There's no consensus for these changes. Thenightaway (talk) 15:18, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- This is rubber-stamping PR firm content - those are fine words, but very POV and nothing to do with WP policies. None of this content is of any interest - another your personal point of view. No idea, why do you think only what you decided to leave here is of any importance. I don't see any consensus here on the talk page. We need a mediator here Hocikre (talk) 06:39, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- here it is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Badr_Jafar Hocikre (talk) 06:55, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- I agree with the reversion of this material and have redone it. See my edit summary there. I don't want to get involved with this much further though and my comment isn't necessarily the last word. Graham87 (talk) 07:22, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- It's not in good faith to delete sources and basic facts. I started a mediation process. Please stop disrupting the page and removing the sourced content. Primary sources should be avoided but it's not the reason I guess you reverted my edits. It's allowed to use primary sources: "Although specific facts may be taken from primary sources, secondary sources that present the same material are preferred". WP:RSPRIMARY Hocikre (talk) 13:53, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- It's not in good faith to act as a proxy for someone with a conflict of interest. But I'll leave editing the actual article to other users. Graham87 (talk) 14:38, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- It's not in good faith to delete sources and basic facts. I started a mediation process. Please stop disrupting the page and removing the sourced content. Primary sources should be avoided but it's not the reason I guess you reverted my edits. It's allowed to use primary sources: "Although specific facts may be taken from primary sources, secondary sources that present the same material are preferred". WP:RSPRIMARY Hocikre (talk) 13:53, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- I agree with the reversion of this material and have redone it. See my edit summary there. I don't want to get involved with this much further though and my comment isn't necessarily the last word. Graham87 (talk) 07:22, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- here it is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Badr_Jafar Hocikre (talk) 06:55, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- This is rubber-stamping PR firm content - those are fine words, but very POV and nothing to do with WP policies. None of this content is of any interest - another your personal point of view. No idea, why do you think only what you decided to leave here is of any importance. I don't see any consensus here on the talk page. We need a mediator here Hocikre (talk) 06:39, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
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[edit]I spent more time substituting some primary sources and removed a dozen of them as they were extra and there were enough reliable sources. A small part was removed that was supported only by the primary source. Hocikre (talk) 14:33, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
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