Talk:Arigho
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Nominator: Vanderwaalforces (talk · contribs) 09:09, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
Reviewer: Reverosie (talk · contribs) 12:31, 13 June 2025 (UTC)
Hello! I'll be your GA reviewer. I'll be reviewing Obioye's article at the same time as this one. I'll be working on both of them in tandem; if you want me to prioritize one over the other, please let me know! Since I've reviewed two of your articles already, I won't need to explain my procedures. I'm very excited to review this! 🌷Reverosie🌷★talk★ 12:31, 13 June 2025 (UTC)
Initial review:
- Is it well written?
- A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:
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- Is it verifiable with no original research, as shown by a source spot-check?
- A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:
- B. Reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose):
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- A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:
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- Is it neutral?
- It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
(I need to do a more in-depth reading of the article before scoring this)
- It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
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- Overall:
- Pass or Fail:
- Pass or Fail:
I'll move to the spot check now. Since Ohuede, Oduwa, and Obioye all passed the spot check, this should be quick.
Spot check
[edit]Again, reference 1 is reliable.
I checked reference 12, and as expected, it's reliable and directly refers to Igho Arigho. I feel no need to transcribe the article and the source material, as that would be redundant on my fourth review with you. I'll move to the main review now.
Infobox
[edit]No suggestions for the infobox
Lead
[edit]This review will use the same formatting as before.
P1S1:Arigho (r. 1121–1125)
Here, it says that Arigho reigned from 1121-1125, but his infobox says that he died c. 1125. There should be consistency regarding whether or not these dates are approximates- P1S6:
Additionally, Arigho's reign witnessed the emergence of the Osogan, described in oral traditions as a man-eating entity that disrupted commerce and travel.
Do we have an english translation of the word Osogan (Like how Ogiso means "King from the sky")?- Not that I know of. I didn't find a literal translation, but it is described as a man-eating creature.
Early life and background
[edit]P1S1:Arigho was the son of the Ogiso (king) Obioye
Since the meaning of Ogiso is linked (and none of the other articles have this), it does not need to be defined as meaning "king" here.P1S2 - P1S4:His upbringing was influenced by his grandfather, Ogiso Oduwa, who was involved in trade and craftsmanship.[3] Unlike his father, who grew up in a rural farming community, Arigho was raised in an urban, commercial environment.[4] Oduwa was an ironsmith who expanded into brass-smithing, accumulating wealth.[3]
I'd suggest re-arranging this to mention Oduwa's involvement in trade, then Oduwa's upbringings as an ironsmith, and then Arigho's upbringing in comparison to his father's.P1S7:He also traded items such as camwood beads, palm-nut beads, and cowry shells, which were valued in Igodomigodo
I'd suggest mentioning the value of cowry shells as currency here. Also, "cowry" is spelled "cowrie" every other time it is mentioned in the article, so I would suggest changing this spelling to match.- P1S8:
His name, Arigho—meaning "money eater" or "money changer"—reflected his engagement in trade and wealth management.
It should be mentioned that this refers to Arigho's regnal name- But we do not know if he had an original name or not, I don't think mentioning that Arigho is his regnal name without saying his birth name is appropriate.
- This is a good point. I have to agree with you. 🌷Reverosie🌷★talk★ 16:33, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
- But we do not know if he had an original name or not, I don't think mentioning that Arigho is his regnal name without saying his birth name is appropriate.
P3S1:By the time he ascended the throne around c. 1121, the kingdom was facing severe economic challenges.
This is redundant
Reign
[edit]Ascension
[edit]- Suggestion: P1S3:
The famine led to widespread starvation, prompting many people to migrate beyond Igodomigodo's borders in search of relief
I'm not sure if Obioye's message to Le ne ukhunmwu ("Flee the inflation") would be appropriate to mention here. I'll leave it up to you, since you have far more knowledge of this subject than me - Suggestion: P2: Perhaps mentioning Obioye's policies and why they failed would make for good context here
Economic reforms
[edit]P1S2:The additional payment was directed to the king's treasury, stored within designated shrine-houses called Ogua-Edion
Again, do we have an english translation of the term Ogue-Edion?P1S5:To enforce this policy, royal officials known as Avbiogbe were appointed to oversee transactions and tax collection.
Same thing as P1S2
Socioeconomic impact
[edit]No real requirements here, but I'd strongly suggest adding an image of Edo art for this section of the article (especially since the article has no other images)
Challenges and the Osogan crisis
[edit]P2S7:adopting the new name—Agbado, signifying "we trade together, but we do not return together".
This is redundant- General suggestion: Do we have any leads on what the Ogosan crisis could have been?
- @Reverosie: What do you mean? --Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:46, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
- Do we know what prompted such fear of the Ogosan and what caused these disappearances? 🌷Reverosie🌷★talk★ 16:47, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Reverosie See These Osogan were believed to be humans transformed into supernatural beings who preyed upon people at the height of the famine. They were said to knock down their victims, crush them completely, and swallow them whole. I think this is surely why there's such fear and also the cause of disappearances. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:54, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
- This makes sense 🌷Reverosie🌷★talk★ 16:56, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Reverosie See These Osogan were believed to be humans transformed into supernatural beings who preyed upon people at the height of the famine. They were said to knock down their victims, crush them completely, and swallow them whole. I think this is surely why there's such fear and also the cause of disappearances. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:54, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
Death and succession
[edit]P1S1:Upon his death, Arigho was buried near the royal treasury.
It should be added here that Arigho died in c. 1125P1S3:This treasure was reportedly stored in the Uye Ihiron ("seven deeps")
The term Uye Ihiron should be mentioned in the lead as well (where it refers to the seven deeps).P2S1:seven sons and seven daughters—but only one son, Owodo, and one daughter, Iduzode, survived him; the others predeceased him
This is redundant. Since you state that only two children survived him, you don't need to specify that the others predeceased him
Overall
[edit]@Vanderwaalforces: We will follow the same procedure as last time. If all of these problems are resolved within three to four days, I will quick pass the article. If not, I will put the article on hold for as long as you need, but ideally not over three weeks. If the review is not worked on for an extended period of time, and you do not give me a reason as to why, I may have to fail you.
This article was a pleasure to work on, and good luck! 🌷Reverosie🌷★talk★ 19:23, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you Reverosie (god knows I alway type "Rose" first before deleting and typing Revose, oops, Reverose, grrhh) for yet another great review, I have addressed your comments above. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 17:02, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
- Perfect! I'll do one more reading of the article to make sure, and you're good to go! 🌷Reverosie🌷★talk★ 17:05, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
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