Talk:Second Intifada

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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 15 December 2024

“occupation” should be taken out as not everybody sees it that way, so it is biased. 2600:1001:B032:1AE3:5C4E:61DC:DC8:4D00 (talk) 09:00, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

Not done. edit requests should be uncontroversial Rainsage (talk) 06:22, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

Using the term occupation is controvertial in itself, as it is biased 2A0D:6FC2:4030:E300:519D:E074:66FF:358F (talk) 16:24, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Military occupation is a clearly defined term in international law, and it is generally agreed upon that it applies to the Palestinian territories. 𝓽𝓮𝔁 𞥗 𝓉𝒶𝓁𝓀 12:08, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

grammatical error in lead

This might not be super high importance, but it seems like there might be a better way to phrase the end of the first sentence "The Second Intifada, also known as the Al-Aqsa Intifada,was a major uprising by Palestinians against Israel and its occupation from 2000.". Maybe for clarity it would be better to say "beginning in 2000" or "beginning in the year 2000"? Femalecenobite (talk) 05:35, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

Edit request 4 May 2025

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Israeli tactics included curbing Palestinians' movements through the setting up of checkpoints and the enforcement of strict curfews in certain areas. Infrastructural attacks against Palestinian Authority targets such as police and prisons was another method to force the Palestinian Authority to repress the anti-Israeli protests and attacks on Israeli targets.

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Israeli tactics included firing live ammunition into crowds of protesters, even when the lives of Israeli Security forces were not at threat [1], shelling residential areas[1], assassinations[2], dropping up to one-ton bombs over densely populated civilian areas[2], extrajudicial killings[1], setting up checkpoints[1], imposing curfews[1], and collective punishment through the demolition of Palestinian homes and orchards[1]. The tactics used by Israel throughout the second intifada have been criticized by human rights groups as tantamount to war crimes, and resulted in the deaths of many civilians, women, and children[1].

Axesmara (talk) 16:51, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

I’m not sure which paragraph this is in. However, the extreme violence by Israeli security against protesters which led to the intifada devolving from a civilian to armed uprising is added to the lede The Great Mule of Eupatoria (talk) 06:48, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

It is in the tactics section. Although that is mentioned in the lede none of the tactics I listed above are described in the "tactics" section, which presents a bias by leaving out incredibly important information. It presents the Intifada as one in which Palestinians committed extreme violence whereas the Israeli government acted with extreme restraint and were not violent in their tactics. I also find it concerning that assassination is labeled as a Palestinian tactic in the section, but not as a tactic for Israel despite the fact the Palestinians committed 1 recorded assassination whereas the Israelis committed numerous. Do you disagree with the need for a change? Axesmara (talk) 14:35, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

I agree with this completely. The violence in both intifada against Palestinian protesters which eventually led to Palestinian side from the violence is omitted especially in the second intifada, putting it in the lede is good and also the background. The whole article need some reworking The Great Mule of Eupatoria (talk) 15:15, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

Yep, hopefully someone with proper permissions comes and changes this soon. Not only does it misrepresent the conflict completely, the current section describing Israeli tactics has no citation to it. Axesmara (talk) 16:10, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

References

 Done a bit copyedited though. Lova Falk (talk) 05:48, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Missing "of"

"This led to the uprising devolving into a period heightened violence in Palestine and Israel."

There should be an "of" between "period" and "heightened". 2600:1700:7790:1FB0:0:0:0:A (talk) 13:37, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Thanks, fixed The Great Mule of Eupatoria (talk) 06:15, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Discussion of POV removal of information from the lede

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Second_Intifada&diff=prev&oldid=1300883415

FlyingScotsman72 removed this from lede. Do we have a consensus for these changes? Theofunny (talk) 22:41, 16 July 2025 (UTC)

They only added this stuff in May (see above in this Talk page) and I'm sure they'll turn up here to berate my deletions any day now, so I don't care about this; I don't have the time of day to have a back and forward with extremists (I'm not talking about Theofunny), particularly not with well-read (i.e. 'selectively well-read') extremists. I hope Mr. 21 year old gymbro continues enjoying the great englightened Hassen Pecker! (Remember what he said about Miley Cyrus? Do you?) FlyingScotsman72 (talk) 23:03, 17 July 2025 (UTC)

I'm not in favor of FlyingScotsman's changes. The restored (current as of this comment) version is better. Monk of Monk Hall (talk) 23:10, 17 July 2025 (UTC)

No, I'm sure you're not. What a surprise! See my reply above lol FlyingScotsman72 (talk) 23:12, 17 July 2025 (UTC)

there’s nothing with the lede, mentioning killing the unarmed protesters (which was initially not mentioned) as a driving factor for the intifada’s degeneration into violence is a fair characterisation, no? The Great Mule of Eupatoria (talk) 06:13, 5 August 2025 (UTC)