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Previous discussions concerning the infobox in the top right corner of the article can be found at Talk:African Americans/summary.

On 20 April 2025, it was proposed that this article be moved to African-Americans. The result of the discussion was not moved.

Request for correction

It is asserted in the genetic section that "...Historians estimate that 58% of enslaved women in the US aged 15–30 years were sexually assaulted by their slave owners and other White men." The citation for this being a paper (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6167003/) which substantiates its assertion with another citation, this time from a vawnet.org pamphlet (https://vawnet.org/sites/default/files/materials/files/2016-09/AR_SVAAWomenRevised.pdf). Our 58% figure is credited to historical book, 'Rape and Race in the Nineteenth-Century South' by Diane Somerville in the pamphlet, which (after reading the introduction and first chapter) seems to be about how enslaved Black men were given due legal process in rape accusations by white women, despite popular perception. Given this, I think the 58% figure should be jettisoned or a better source should be found. Thoughts? DakiniSlayer (talk) 23:13, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Very nice work tracing the number back! I will remove that sentence, without it the text still makes sense. Lova Falk (talk) 05:19, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Black American vs African American

Black American: Those that came to the US during enslavement (and their decedents), thus, they don’t historically know their ancestry, ie. exact location. Can be determined via dna tests but the culture and connection has been severed years ago.

African American- came to the US in the 1990s when there was an influx of Africans. These immigrants know where their grandparents are from.

It is just as important to distinguish these two groups as it is to distinguish Japanese from Chinese. Culturally they have no ties to each other. Itsemi (talk) 16:10, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia will use the "African American- came to the US in the 1990s" definition when most universities and mainstream media do. Perhaps that will happen soon. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:17, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 26 June 2025

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I request for where it says "African-American history began in the 16th century, with Africans sold to European slave traders and transported across the Atlantic to the Western Hemisphere" to be changed to "African-American history began in the 16th century, when African slave traders sold African artisans, farmers, and warriors to European slave traders, who transported them across the Atlantic to the Western Hemisphere" please. 186.96.212.67 (talk) 14:03, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done Thepharoah17 (talk) 16:22, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I also request for where it says "They had been captured directly by the slave traders in coastal raids, or sold by other West Africans" to be changed to "They had been captured directly by European slave traders in coastal raids, or sold by West African slave traders", please. 186.96.212.67 (talk) 21:27, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done Day Creature (talk) 18:06, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 15 July 2025

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I request for where it says, "African slave traders sold African artisans, farmers, and warriors" to be changed to "African slave traders sold African prisoners of war, criminals, and rivals" please. 186.96.212.67 (talk) 14:23, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. meamemg (talk) 14:40, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I request for where it says "African slave traders sold African artisans, farmers, and warriors" to be changed to "African slave traders sold African prisoners of war, criminals, and rivals" in order to be more specific. 186.96.212.67 (talk) 15:01, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not done You need to provide WP:reliable sources for this request to be considered. Lova Falk (talk) 15:07, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

PS Please don't repeat this request again. No editor will consider doing this without proper sources. Lova Falk (talk) 15:11, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

We could, however, move "artisans, farmers, and warriors" to the article body since it's not mentioned there (WP:LEAD is supposed to be a summary of the article body). And expand on that (types of people) if there are good sources. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:09, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sure! Lova Falk (talk) 16:55, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

For the interested, Atlantic_slave_trade#African_participation_in_the_slave_trade expands on this a little. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:15, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Can you please make do my edit request. 186.96.212.67 (talk) 18:06, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

IP editor, saying please doesn't help. You need to provide WP:reliable sources that confirm your claims. Lova Falk (talk) 06:45, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Definition

Hi Gråbergs Gråa Sång, the quote still works because the second source uses exactly the same phrasing: African Americans are citizens or residents of the United States who have origins in any of the black populations of Africa. Kowal2701 (talk) 18:09, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Kowal2701 I didn't notice that! Pick whichever you like, I think they're equal. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:24, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]