Talk:Abdallah al-Fadil al-Mahdi

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GA review

Passed. PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 22:48, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Abdallah al-Fadil al-Mahdi/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: FuzzyMagma (talk · contribs) 20:57, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: PizzaKing13 (talk · contribs) 11:25, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'll do this review. PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 11:25, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

thank you for taking the time to review the articles. I am bit busy these days but will get right to it ASAP. FuzzyMagma (talk) 11:55, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi I am back. Sorry had to deal with some emergency but will get cracking FuzzyMagma (talk) 19:21, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox and lead

Do we not know where he died?

If I had to guess I would say Omdurman, but it is amazing how limited are the sources about him. I did additional digging now with different combination of his name and death/died (in Arabic) and nothing came out of it. FuzzyMagma (talk) 19:35, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I added the lrm template to the lifespan in the first sentence

Thanks FuzzyMagma (talk) 19:35, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"Following a family tragedy", specify what tragedy

Fixed FuzzyMagma (talk) 19:35, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a link to "Gentlemen's Agreement"?

No, but I think I will write it. I turned it into a redlink for now.FuzzyMagma (talk) 19:35, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Early life and education

"She and Abdallah then settled in Al-Qatina and got married." does "got married" apply to Abdallah or his mother? In context I assume his mother. You should reword this

he was a kid then and that part of the paragraph follows her, but I understand the confusion. Fixed the wording. FuzzyMagma (talk) 19:39, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Political career

"in which Egypt decided to remain neutral", neutral in regards to what?

rephrased FuzzyMagma (talk) 19:51, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"His good relationship with Egypt" what made his relationship "good"?

there was trust between him and Major General Muhammad Naguib according to the source

"gave the green light" is too euphemistic

fixed FuzzyMagma (talk) 19:51, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The first paragraph of this sentence flows better if it went after second paragraph

merged for better flow FuzzyMagma (talk) 19:51, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"The agreement also dealt with Nile water", how?

clarified that point to water management FuzzyMagma (talk) 19:51, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"He built bridges" is also too euphemistic

rephrased FuzzyMagma (talk) 19:51, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"Abdallah and the National Umma Party played a role in resisting Ibrahim Abboud's rule", how and why?

fixed with some context (as far as the source provide) FuzzyMagma (talk) 19:51, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Sovereignty Council section feels like if focuses more on the council rather than on Abdallah.

I can barely find information about the council. I which I had something about him specifically thus I lumped him with the whole group FuzzyMagma (talk) 19:51, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Personal life and death

"A commemorative stamp was issued in his memory", do we know when? I can't tell if the 1977 on the stamp definitely means that's when it was issued

I cannot even find the 1977? which corner is that? FuzzyMagma (talk) 19:54, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ok found it FuzzyMagma (talk) 19:58, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Overall

I made some minor typo corrections and c/e to the article while reviewing
No OR or copyright vio (earwig says 2.0%)
Article is neutral and stable and covers the topic well
Image is fine
Sources appear to be reliable

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

It is reasonably well written.
a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):

b. (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a. (reference section):

b. (citations to reliable sources):

c. (OR):

d. (copyvio and plagiarism):
It is broad in its coverage.
a. (major aspects):

b. (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):

b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/fail:

(Criteria marked are unassessed)

@FuzzyMagma: I left some comments for the review. PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 11:48, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the delay. Everything seems to be addressed. Will do some spot checks right now. PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 05:03, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2 – Is there not a better source that lists his year of birth?

No, but found more stamps with the same year of birth. FuzzyMagma (talk) 17:42, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Since the stamps would have been issued by a government body I think it's fine then.

6 – mention 1: Y; mention 2: Source confirms the events that occurred but makes no mention of this occurring on 19 October. It says Egypt approved on the 30th.
8 – Does not mention the Gentlemen's Agreement formalizing the Sudan Self-Government Statute

That time of Egypt moved really fast. In early 1952 Umma-dominated legislature negotiated the Self-Determination Agreement with Britain. By May 1952 it was sent to Farouk of Egypt who protested. A month later in July Farouk was toppled in coup and the leader of the coup, Major General Muhammad Naguib then signed the Gentlemen agreement in October, where Egypt supported Sudan independence. The Self-Government Statute was debated two days after the Gentlemen agreement and enacted on 20 January 1953. I have not included all of that but I included an additional source. FuzzyMagma (talk) 17:48, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

all good

11 – Y
12 – Verified Mawlid massacre happening, but not how many were killed or that Abdallah and the National Umma Party opposed Ibrahim Abboud (used Google Translate)

removed the number. I do not remember from where I got it FuzzyMagma (talk) 17:48, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Still doesn't verify "Abdallah and the National Umma Party opposed Ibrahim Abboud's military rule due to its authoritarian nature and restrictions on civil liberties.", unless I missed it.

15 – This links to a university in Jakarta?

not sure what happened there but removed the source. FuzzyMagma (talk) 17:48, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

16 – Y
18 – Y
20 – Y

@FuzzyMagma: Some sources, like Mideast Mirror and Sudan Notes and Records, + other short refs, could use some more complete formatting that give more information about the sources. You should also use Template:Rp to indicate page numbers inline since I had trouble looking in sources during my spot checks. PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 05:30, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have expanded sources citation and translated sources titles where needed. Since I am not using different pages from the same source, I did not use the rp template as I can include the number in the citation, which I have now done. FuzzyMagma (talk) 17:18, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@FuzzyMagma: All good, but still one thing for source 12 which has now become source 14 with your additions. PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 21:21, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

sorry that is ref 4 FuzzyMagma (talk) 21:25, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@FuzzyMagma:

verified (via Google Translate). I'm satisfied with the review. Congrats on the GA! PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 22:38, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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