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This article has previously been nominated to be moved. Please review the prior discussions if you are considering re-nomination.

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Withdrawn, 25 April 2021, to Abbas Ibrahim, see [[1]].
Not moved, 28 May 2025, to Abbas Ibrahim, see discussion.

Created

08:42, 23 October 2020‎ Thepharoah17 talk contribs‎ 3,745 bytes +3,745‎ created article about a Lebanese Major General. In ictu oculi (talk) 22:31, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 19 November 2020

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It was proposed in this section that multiple pages be renamed and moved.

result:
Withdrawn and not moved per the discussion below with the editor who requested the page move asking for closure. Kudos to editors for your input, and Happy, Healthy Publishing! (nac by page mover) P.I. Ellsworth ed. ^put'r there 18:52, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Links: current log • target log • direct move

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– he's the main Abbas Ibrahim Thepharoah17 (talk) 18:22, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request (permalink). ─ The Aafī (^talk) 19:20, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: Abbas Ibrahim titles a dab page with significant content and so is ineligible to be a new title in a requested move unless it is also proposed to be renamed. This request has been altered to reflect that fact. P.I. Ellsworth ed. ^put'r there 05:29, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

so 18:19, 19 November 2020‎ Thepharoah17 moved page Abbas Ibrahim to Abbas Ibrahim (politician) In ictu oculi (talk) 22:26, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose editor has created a new bio, fine, but there were already 3 Abbas Ibrahim, so the default location should clearly be a dab page. In ictu oculi (talk) 22:31, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The default location fits for dab page. ─ The Aafī on Mobile ^{^(talk)} 22:47, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. No evidence of primary topic. DrKay (talk) 21:27, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ok can we just close this as not moved?Thepharoah17 (talk) 23:38, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There's a possibility of a primary topic, see views[[2]] but this depends on how often Abass Ibrahim is known as "Abbas Ibrahim" and the possibility of recentism, otherwise I would have just closed this as withdrawn. Crouch, Swale (talk) 09:57, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 25 April 2021

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The result of the move request was: withdrawn (non-admin closure) Thepharoah17 (talk) 06:54, 26 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

– The Lebanese officer clearly has the most page views [[3]] and the other Abbas Ibrahims are all stub classes while the officer is a C class. Thepharoah17 (talk) 14:15, 25 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per oppose votes at the relatively recent Talk:Abbas Ibrahim (Lebanese officer)#Requested move 19 November 2020 above. Would support, however, Abbas Ibrahim (Lebanese officer) → Abbas Ibrahim (Lebanese general), Abbas Ibrahim (Lebanese major general), Abbas Ibrahim (major general) or simply Abbas Ibrahim (general). Wikipedia does have a number of categories — Category:Generals, Category:Generals by nationality or Category:Major generals, which enable us to be more specific than "(Lebanese officer)" when disambiguating a country's military commander or one of a country's top military commanders. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 00:04, 26 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. To be primary, a topic must have more page views than any other similarly-named topic and all the other topics combined. That is not the case here. DrKay (talk) 06:30, 26 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 28 May 2025

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The result of the move request was: not moved. Consensus is against the proposed moves. However, there is no consensus against moving this page to an alternative disambiguator, so any editor may feel free to do so. (closed by non-admin page mover) feminist🩸 (talk) 17:09, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

– Clearly the primary topic by a long shot according to pageviews analysis. This time it should be moved. Thepharoah17 (talk) 06:24, 28 May 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. Jeffrey34555 (talk) 14:22, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. To be primary, a topic must have more page views than any other similarly-named topic and all the other topics combined. That is not the case here[4]. DrKay (talk) 07:37, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Sorting by monthly, the Lebanese officer is only barely higher than the second highest. No primary topic here. Jeffrey34555 (talk) 15:59, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. No primary topic. But move the general to Abbas Ibrahim (general). -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:02, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.