Talk:2025 Iberian Peninsula blackout

Requested move 28 April 2025

"Peninsula" was added to the proposed article title partway through the discussion at 10:07, 29 April 2025 (UTC) [by someone other than the nominator]. The article was also moved and move-protected, so it could appear on the Main Page's In the News box (hatnote to closer due discussion length by Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 05:31, 1 May 2025 (UTC)).

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Procedural close and retaining 2025 Iberian Peninsula blackout for now. OK, this RM has become completely muddled by the article being moved halfway through, with comments since then reflecting the new title and earlier comments reflecting an earlier title. @Schwede66:, as you know I respect you a lot, but I know you're open to feedback and in this case I think you've made a bit of a poor decision. You should have either closed the RM outright as "moved" before posting on the main page, or else posted to the main page with the original article title and then waited for the RM to close. Changes of title for articles listed on the main page are not a big deal, but moving pages in the middle of an open RM discussion are, because they muddle up the conversation. Anyway, peering through the confusion, it does appear like there's a very rough consensus for the current title so retaining this title for the time being. Given the circumstances, there is no prejudice on anyone opening a new RM if they wish to, and if there's any groundswell of support in such an RM for returning to 2025 European power outage then that would still be the ultimate "default" title.  — Amakuru (talk) 11:14, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

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2025 European power outage → 2025 Iberian Peninsula power outage – Restricted to Iberia. Effects outside of mainland Spain and Portugal appear limited. Departure– (talk) 17:46, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

• I concur. kencf0618 (talk) 18:49, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose The majority of sources seem to be referring to this as a "Spain and Portugal" power outage. One look at the headlines for the search term "power outage" on Google News right now reflects this. If we're moving it, "2025 Spanish and Portuguese power outage" would be a more appropriate title per WP:COMMONNAME RachelTensions (talk) 18:52, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

  We should avoid using "Spain and Portugal" as a stand-in for the Iberian Peninsula, since not all of Spain and Portugal are on the peninsula. Both countries also include large populations in archipelagos — like the Canary Islands, Balearic Islands, Madeira, and the Azores — as well as Spain's autonomous cities of Ceuta and Melilla. These extrapeninsular regions were unaffected by the outage. Foreign media often use "Spain and Portugal" because it’s more familiar and attention-grabbing for the average reader, but Spanish National TV has been more accurate, referring specifically to "Peninsular Spain." Since this is an encyclopedia, we should aim for a higher standard of precision than typical news outlets. Levruans (talk) 22:13, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

  Therefore, I Support. Levruans (talk) 22:15, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

  Nowhere in the title is it mentioned that it is a nationwide outage, however, the largest landmasses of each nation are affected, not considering external territories. Therefore, in my opinion, „Spain and Portugal“ should work fine since the majority of each country was affected. – Nar 2608 – 10:03, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose but support "2025 Iberian Peninsula power outage". Copying my earlier comment here: While there is support for using the term "Iberian," the exact title merits more consideration. "2025 Iberian Peninsula power outage" more precisely describes the geography of the affected areas (Spain, Portugal, and Andorra) and follows the standard use of "Iberian Peninsula" as a proper noun for the landmass. In contrast, "Iberian" alone typically refers to peoples or cultural identity, which could introduce ambiguity for readers unfamiliar with the geographic context. For clarity, consistency, and alignment with Wikipedia's conventions for naming events geographically (e.g., "2010 Chile blackout," "2021 Texas power crisis"), "2025 Iberian Peninsula power outage" stands out as preferable. News sources tend to favor using Iberian Peninsula (bold emphasis mine):
  • Iberian peninsula hit by massive blackout and left in the dark - Euractiv
  • Portugal operator says restoring power grid could take up to one week - RTE - "power outages across the Iberian Peninsula"
  • Must better connect “energy island” Iberian Peninsula with rest of Europe to reap benefits – Spain - Clean Energy Wire
  • Grid operator says power returning in parts of Iberian peninsula - BBC
  - Fuzheado | Talk 18:57, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

  I'd be in favor of that. I'm not from Europe so thanks for pointing me towards the correct usage. I'll change the nom accordingly. Departure– (talk) 19:10, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

  I favor Iberian because Iberian is consistently used as a demonym for the Iberian Peninsula. See my other reply for sources on this! Either way, they are both way better than Eurpoean. NyanarWelden (talk) 23:42, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

  "Iberian Peninsula" is more specific term and I support that one. People might be searching for exact term "Iberian Peninsula" and if the word "Peninsula" isn't included the title, the article may be far down the list of search results (or not showing at all). My vote goes for the longer version. Cepal67 (talk) 10:06, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

• Soft support but to "2025 Iberian Peninsula power outage" as Fuzheado recommends, which sounds is a title that more immediately reflects the affected countries. Afonso Dimas Martins (talk) 19:48, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support. More relevant to where the actual outages are occuring. The current title implies the blackout is affecting areas all over Europe. LivinAWestLife (talk) 19:51, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support. With the way it currently is it misleadingly implies a much larger area of effect. It may have affected France (mind you it was the Basque area) but this was only briefly. Demagoras^talk 20:00, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose. Apparently, there were claims of outages as far as Poland and Finland. Regardless, it still affected France, and "Iberian" just doesn't seem right. Lack 237 (talk) 20:44, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

  Sources on those "claims"? Also, in RS France seems like an afterthought and is very inconsistently included in article titles. And also, the tiny region in France that also experienced the outage can easily be considered geographically and culturally within the Iberian Peninsula (which is a geographic rather than political term, ergo fuzzy edges). NyanarWelden (talk) 23:44, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

  Iberian is better than European, but it should be "Spain and Portugal" per common name. When I googled power outage, there was a dozen Spain and Portugal and not a single mention of Iberian. AncientWalrus (talk) 20:45, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

  2025 Spain and Portugal power outage could work and has RS backing. NyanarWelden (talk) 23:46, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support I live in Europe too, it was no any outrages in my place. So this should be changed to a more specific place, like south-west europe or iberian.--Orange-kun (talk) 20:23, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support. I concur. Move to 2025 Iberian Peninsula power outage Pristino (talk) 00:42, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support, but only for the name 2025 Iberian Peninsula power outage; "Iberian", as others have said above, just does not feel right. No signs of extending to the rest of Europe beyond what's already been reported in this article. — The Anome (talk) 21:07, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support a move away from the overly dramatic misleading "European" to something proper, regional. 2003:C6:3701:FDDE:834:F0F1:3C39:1FA9 (talk) 21:30, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support Definitely should be 2025 Iberian Peninsula power outage as it has mostly affected Spain and Portugal, the Iberian Peninsula, regardless of 'does it sound right or not', it is a proper region, it has a name. Obviously the other European countries affected should be included, however "European" in the title is certainly misleading and overly dramatic. Moreover, the majority of reliable sources, mainstream media, have all reported in their headlines to include Spain and Portugal and no mention of 'European', albeit there's mention of European countries such as France which was affected, but certainly 'European' in a title article is misleading.
  • As it happened: Spain and Portugal hit by power outage - RTÉ
  • Blackouts latest: State of emergency declared as blackouts plunge Spain and Portugal into darkness - Sky News
  • Power begins to return after huge outage hits Spain and Portugal - Reuters
  • Blackout brings much of Spain and Portugal to a standstill, cause still unknown - France24
  • Power outage hits Spain and Portugal: What happened and what was affected? - Aljazeera
  • Widespread Power Outage Hits Spain and Portugal - NY Times
  • Spain and Portugal declare states of emergency after massive power outage - CNN
  Edl-irishboy (talk) 21:50, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support for either "Iberian" or "Iberian Peninsula". Juwan (talk) 22:20, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose - although, technically correct, people are searching for mainly "Spain power outage" or "Portugal power outage" according to Google Trends. Just for the sake of properly indexing the page, a "2025 Spain-Portugal Power Outage" is more appropriate title - and frankly speaking - I seriously doubt that people will ever think of to associate the Iberian Peninsula with the event, rather than the countries affected. In the scenario, a year from now, where the average John or Jane Doe recalls the outage - do you really think they will refer to it to that outage in the Iberian Peninsula or to that outage that happened in Spain / Portugal? 2A05:F6C2:9C66:0:8592:3C3:6CEE:AE90 (talk) 22:48, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

  FYI, those can be solved by redirects that can point to this article. - Fuzheado | Talk 00:28, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

• Soft Support - It’s an outage on the Iberian peninsula, it should read “2025 Iberian Peninsula power outage” to reflect as much SRSchiavone (talk) 23:09, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
• Strong support. Iberian is fine and consistent with articles that use Iberian in the title to refer to the region, not the pre-Roman Iberian people, and is also consistent with the RAE DLE's top definition of "ibérico, a", as well as Cambridge Dictionary's top definition of "Iberian" and even our own here on Wikipedia. But I also support Iberian Peninsula if that's what people want. European is unnecessarily vague and dramatic, and Southwestern European is needlessly convoluted (and has no support from RS).
  If we want to stick to RS as much as possible, we should be calling it 2025 Spanish and Portuguese power outage. France is an afterthought on RS. NyanarWelden (talk) 23:39, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
• Comment In ES-WP it was moved to es:Apagón del suroeste de Europa de 2025 2003:C6:3701:FDDE:834:F0F1:3C39:1FA9 (talk) 22:08, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

  Since moved to es:Apagón en la península ibérica de 2025, which I believe translates as "Blackout in the Iberian Peninsula in 2025" Timtjtim (talk) 11:51, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

• Soft support but to "2025 Iberian Peninsula power outage". 88.19.93.19 (talk) 22:30, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
• Comment – I'm fairly neutral on the proposed change, but I think "Iberian Peninsula" is preferable to "Iberian". However, reliable sources have stated that parts of France have been affected. So it's possible that areas outside the Iberian peninsula have been affected. It has also been described as "One of Europe's biggest-ever power cuts" by Channel 4 and "Europe's power cut" by The Daily Telegraph
  • One of Europe's biggest-ever power cuts could last a week – Channel 4
  • What could be behind Europe’s power cut – The Daily Telegraph
  – Kind Tennis Fan (talk) 23:42, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

  FYI, the portion of southwest France that was briefly affected is indeed part of the Iberian Peninsula. - Fuzheado | Talk 00:29, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

• Search me. I'd say leave it alone for now until we see how things shake out, that is, until (and if) we can get a better handle on what a long-term WP:COMMONNAME might be, if any. It's early for a vote yet. More jaw-jaw first. Herostratus (talk) 02:31, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support. Better geographic description. No resonable liklihood of confusion between "peninsula" and "people". - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 02:52, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support Iberian Peninsula, which is how it's being described in the Guardian. Ericoides (talk) 04:05, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support Iberia for conciseness and WP:SKYISBLUE geographically speaking. Borgenland (talk) 04:37, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
• Strong support Proposing such a move was my first thought on seeing this article called "European power outage". The outage was limited to the Iberian Peninsula, it was not a Europe-wide thing and calling it such is misleading. "Iberian power outage" is more descriptive and has basis in reliable sources. --Grnrchst (talk) 08:44, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support but additionally prefer blackout instead of power outage – "Iberian Peninusla" is correct vs the vague and overly dramatic "European", but "power outage" is US English. As this is a European event, per MOS:TIES it should be "2025 Iberian Peninsula power cut" or possibly per MOS:COMMONALITY it could be "2025 Iberian Peninsula blackout", which would also be consistent with 2003 Italy blackout. --SkipperGeek (talk) 10:02, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
  • Good point; blackout or power cut, definitely not outage Ericoides (talk) 10:25, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
  • Strong support — this isn't a normal power outage, this is basically the collapse of a power grid. Shorter and more consistent title and "Iberian Peninsula" is more correct as a geographic reference, especially since the rest of Europe wasn't really affected. Tidjani Saleh (talk) 10:35, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
  • I support "2025 Iberian Peninsula blackout", considering the Portugese and Spanish islands were not affected. NeoGaze (talk) 11:26, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
  • Support per MOS:COMMONALITY moving to "2025 Iberian Peninsula blackout" for consistency with related articles (quick look at list of major power outages shows all using "blackout" instead of "power outage" in the title) DjmrFunnyMan (talk) 18:37, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support - Even if some areas of France outside the Peninsula were affected (which I'm not sure is the case), the blackout originated in Spain and mainly affected the Peninsula. The current title is misleading. -- Petnog (talk) 10:19, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support using Iberian Peninsula in name. This was the term used on BBC radio 4 news this morning, and they also said the outage in France was in a tiny area and lasted only a very short time. Rwendland (talk) 11:31, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support 2025 Iberian Peninsula power outage, the additional precision outweigh a mild exclusion of the brief and very localised nature of the issues in France. Reports of Belgium, Poland, Germany and even the UK(!) having issues are strange and do not appear to be reliable. Timtjtim (talk) 11:38, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support. WP:Accuracy. The power outage is localized in the Iberial peninsula. "European Power Outage" implies all of Europe, and that is simply not the case here. KyuuA4 (Talk:キュウ) 11:42, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support per accuracy. What, should we call it "Western hemisphere power outage"? Global? No. It took place on the Iberian Peninsula, that's what we should call it. Captainllama (talk) 17:29, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support The current title is misleading. It implies all of Europe was affected. Even if we include the minor effects in neighbouring areas it was still localized entirely in Western Europe. The blackout effects were limited to the Iberian Peninsula, the minor issues in France & Andorra are inconsequential and shouldn't warrant including them in the title. I mean there were issues with internet in Morocco as well should we change the title to "European & Afrian Power Outage" (no we shouldn't) DjmrFunnyMan (talk) 18:25, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support Occurred in Iberia, only. Like in 2025 Southeast Europe retail boycotts. ArionStar (talk) 20:13, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support but prefer "Spain and Portugal" more specifically, which is more common in media sources. either option is far better than the current "European" which is needlessly vague
• Support because European is misleading, but prefer "Spanish and Portugese" because it's more likely to be searched for Vzm123 (talk) 20:47, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

  That can be added as a redirect NeoGaze (talk) 22:06, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

  Support redirect option for "Spanish and Portuguese" (mind the spelling of "Portuguese"), because it is geographically incorrect - both Spain and Portugal have territories outside Iberian Peninsula that haven't been affected at all, whereas there are territories (Andorra and a bit of southern France, that have been affected and aren't covered by the term "Spanish and Portuguese". Cepal67 (talk) 09:52, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support. As others have said, "European" makes it sound much more widespread than it is. I believe, based on WP:ACCURACY and WP:COMMONALITY that "2025 Iberian Peninsula blackout" makes the most sense, with redirects such as "2025 Spanish blackout" and the like for better searching. Tolozen (talk) 01:46, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support It was mainly on "Iberian Peninsula". This event happened in the next four countries per alphabetical order :
  1. Andorra
  2. France (Only the south-west of Metropolitan France was impacted and it was for a short period. This is not a part of Iberian Peninsula)
  3. Portugal
  4. Spain
  1 , 3 and 4 = Iberian Peninsula even if "Portugal" and "Spain" have territories that aren't in this peninsula like "Canary Islands" and "Madeira".
  The majority of territories owned by "Spain" and "Portugal" are in this peninsula.
  Territories of these two countries that aren't in the peninsula weren't concerned by the power outage. Anatole-berthe (talk) 02:41, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support. it would be more accurate to name this article 2025 Iberian Peninsula power outage as the Iberian peninsula was mostly affected by the power outage. The majority of news articles and reports came from Portugal and Spain. - Spinarak (talk) 09:33, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
• Soft support, but for Spain and Portugal power outage. Although people are saying that it's not actually affecting the whole country including external territories, nowhere in the article name does it say that these are nationwide blackouts. Since the majority of the country is affected, it would be appropriate to name the article as such, especially since that is how the event is being referred to by most news sources. – Nar 2608 – 10:00, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose, but support "2025 Western European power outage", as it affected more than just the Iberian Peninsula (Andorra, and Southern France), even if it was just a few minutes. PortugueseWikiMan (talk) 10:25, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

  I meant "2025 Western European blackout", not "power outage". PortugueseWikiMan (talk) 10:28, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support I live in Porgual and was here during the outage. I have family in Ireland & Germany who were unaffected. Calling it "European" is akin to calling a power outage in New England "2025 United States Power Outage". "2025 Iberian Peninsula power outage" sounds good to me.
  "2025 Western European power outage" is simply inaccurate (Brittany? Ireland?) Jefight (talk) 11:11, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support for either "2025 Iberian Peninsula power outage" or "2025 Iberian power outage". Any of these options are an improvement over the current title, and as The Bushranger said, there's little risk of confusion between the geographic area and the people, in an article about a power outage. I oppose moving to a title containing "Spain and Portugal" or variations thereof, since the territories of both counties includes areas outside the Iberian Peninsula that were not affected (though I support creating redirects to allow people to find the article when searching for the country names). --Waldyrious (talk) 16:42, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support given it's more precise accuracy. JoseJan89 (talk) 16:51, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support 2025 Iberian Peninsula power outage - much more accurate as several have pointed out. Yadsalohcin (talk) 17:49, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

  Ok, very pleased we've settled on the '2025 Iberian Peninsula' element; personally I'd support 'power cut', but otherwise 'blackout' would do, with 'outage' not originally part of the vocabulary in the English -speaking parts of the world closest to the affected area. Yadsalohcin (talk) 23:26, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

• Support Since it mostly takes place in the iberian peninsula. EGGBUTTEATERLOL (talk) 22:18, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
• Admin note I'm about to post the article on the main page and before I do so, I shall move this to 2025 Iberian Peninsula blackout. This so that it does not need to be moved while it's on the main page as per WP:MPNOREDIRECT. If the outcome is that it needs to be moved again, ping me and I'll do so as for the time being, I shall move protect the article. Schwede66 23:59, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

  Support "power outage" as it encompasses more than "blackout" (as it only conjures images of visibly glowing devices going dark). Bremps... 01:39, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

  Comment – there is much more support above for "power outage" rather than "blackout" so I'm wondering why you moved it to this current name. We should move it or when the story rolls off the front page, move it to the consensus title. - Fuzheado | Talk 06:14, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

• Support As previously described here, not every area experienced no power, and power outage describes the event. Des Vallee (talk) 03:28, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
• Comment - Why is the move subject matter a moving target? It's confusing when the move proposal keeps changing and the early comments do not bear resemblance to the current request. 2600:1012:A021:7A65:CD00:E7DA:559F:A930 (talk) 03:51, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

  No answer?? This move discussion is very difficult to follow because they're not actually talking about the same request. The current move proposal is no longer about what the earlier comments are referring to. 2600:1012:A021:7A65:CD00:E7DA:559F:A930 (talk) 02:24, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

  Agree... what are we even talking about here? CLOSE this and if needed start over. {{u|Gtoffoletto}}  ^talk 18:13, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

• Support makes the article look better TheSwagger13 (talk) 05:07, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
• Support - It sounds more "proper". Mitsingh (talk) 07:56, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose Let's keep US terms where they belong. We call it a power cut or blackout over here. Ericoides (talk) 08:47, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
• Support 2025 Iberian Peninsula power cut. 'Power outage' vs 'power cut' is an American English vs British English difference. The word 'neighbourhood' is in the article. The article is apparently written in British English and the title should reflect that. TurboSuperA+_(connect) 09:56, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
• Support 'power cut' or 'power outage' per above, 'power cut' preferred as is more European. MelonLost (talk) 10:08, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose I don´t think is really that important the change. Really unnecessary Papasfritas574733 (talk) 15:21, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose per WP:CONSISTENT; 33 of 44 articles on simple power outages (meaning not a cyberattack or part of a larger power crisis), including several Euro ones, follow the format "year(s) region(s) blackout(s)" and the outliers seem to have had little discussion (2005 Moscow power blackouts, 2008 Zanzibar power blackout, 2006 Auckland Blackout, August 2006 Tokyo blackout, 2010 Iceland power outages, 2021 Pietermaritzburg power outage, Manhattan blackout of July 2019, Marmara blackout of 2012, New York City blackout of 1977, Northeast blackout of 1965, Northeast blackout of 2003). Star Garnet (talk) 07:41, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

  @Star Garnet When I read your message published in "MAY/02/2025" at "07:41" UTC".

  I can say that I read a comment with convincing arguments.
  
  

  I haven't a preference for any word but for me , yours arguments are the better than I read. Anatole-berthe (talk) 09:05, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

  Just a comment to note that events may shift titles over time. That is, events that are just factually stated in a title today like "<YEAR> <LOCATION> blackout" may in fact gain iconic status later on, as they result in changes or safeguards in the future. That's where events may be retitled, where a "The" may be appropriate – The "Northeast blackout of 2003", for example, started life as "2003 North America blackout" and was moved to its current title three years after the event. This all to say that it may be too soon and WP:RECENTISM to try to find the long term title, today. - Fuzheado | Talk 12:27, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

• Comment From an (uninformed) American English perspective, I might view a 'power cut' as an intentional act, like a rolling blackout. If 'outage' is an American only term, I would use 'blackout' as it sounds like that is a term used everywhere? Charlesmartin82 (talk) 09:01, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

  Yes, "power cut" has no hint of intention in British English. My childhood in the 1970s, was, like many people's, spent lighting candles at night-time because of the numerous power cuts. Great memories, almost completely irrelevant here. Ericoides (talk) 15:37, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

  Yeah, I just wanted to point out that it could cause a misunderstanding to someone who doesn't know that -- I think the goal is to be understandable to as many readers as possible, so based on comments, blackout is the most well understood by all, if outage really is a regional term. Charlesmartin82 (talk) 02:39, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

Oppose While outage and blackout may be used interchangeably by the media, a power outage refers technically to a localised infrasatructure failure, whereas a blackout is a system wide grid failure. The infrastructural collapse was widespread, not localised, affecting the entire Iberian power grid. We should be most accurate, even if colloquial speech determines one term or another to be interchangeable. GreatMageMai (talk) 01:16, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

Oppose any move from the current title. 2025 Iberian Peninsula blackout is fine. "Iberian" is best because the islands were not affected while Andorra was affected (albeit only shortly). "blackout" is also fine because this term is commonly used for large power cuts. In addition, many sources in Slavic languages and German use the loanword "blackout" when writing about this incident, so it is very familiar to many Europeans. —Joe vom Titan (talk) 07:08, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

This discussion has ended up with no clear conclusion as people are now supporting a move that already happened and the other half are debating the nuances of that move. So it seems people are largely happy and we should use the new debate below to discuss blackout vs outage - James — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.168.119.169 (talk) 10:01, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.