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More Hale info

Several resources say that Hale died three days after her 28th birthday. 2600:1702:5225:C010:69EE:BDDD:749E:475C (talk) 00:38, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Name

Can we change the pronouns back to Her and not him. Actually let’s take their name out completely. Don’t give her the satisfaction she was looking for by posting about her. 2600:1700:23D0:D7A0:F497:4FBE:F9DB:C2FA (talk) 02:59, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Who the heck are you talking about? Dimadick (talk) 03:59, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

i agree with this. too many times school shooters (example colt gray) are inspired by other shooters. AmericanOgraphy (talk) 14:21, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not to open a can of worms, but shooter identified themselves as male, female, a lesbian, and other potentially contradictory things. Local law enforcement identified them as female biologically and by the laws in place. A few facebook posts about how they identify as male and giving a male name may not be the basis to force the entire page to directly disagree with the entire official record. There is no record they attempted to transition with hormone medication or surgery - just in a name preference. I believe if a person insists their name is Jesus Hitler and becomes noteworthy we'd write the article as if their name was John Smith and only mention they preferred to go by an alternate name but use the legal name through the article. Why is this case different? 75.81.43.54 (talk) 17:33, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No, we acknowledge the perpetrator's latest expressed gender identity, unless there are new reliable sources published on the matter. Not your preferred viewpoint on the subject's identity. See this previous discussion that decided how we should address Hale. For general information, see the page MOS:GENDERBIO for Wikipedia's Manual of Style on gender identity issues. Bridget (talk) 17:50, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

why is the shooters name before the victims, i feel that motivates people that desire infamy

i understand this is an encylopedia, but if we could adjust it so more focus is placed on memoralizng the victims that would be wonderful Brightbluebrokeneyes (talk) 11:42, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]