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June 26

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Where can I find commentary on the New York State Constitution of 1846 ?

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Hello; I hate to say this, but in my teens, I watched a John Oliver segment claiming that elected judges tended to campaign as tough on crime, and I have never voted for a state Supreme Court Justice. I now know that in my state, New York, governors used to appoint justices who would not challenge them and that the right of New Yorkers to elect justices was a hard-fought one. Off the top of your head, do you know any law review articles I can read for more context? Shushimnotrealstooge (talk) 13:38, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It is not a law review article and may be more than you want, but there is a detailed discussion in a 2023 doctoral dissertation on The changing role of the judiciary in antebellum New York State. There is a law review article that may be more what you are looking for, George Bundy Smith, Choosing Judges for a State's Highest Court, 48 Syracuse L. Rev. 1493 (1998); I do not immediately see it available for free online, but it can be purchased from HeinOnline and is probably also available from other sources. Incidentally, the highest court in New York is the New York Court of Appeals (established pursuant to the 1846 constitution), and it has judges, not justices. The New York Supreme Court is a trial level court that has justices. John M Baker (talk) 23:04, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

What was the make and model of rifle used in the 1977 Klamath Falls nightclub shooting?

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What was the make and model of the rifle used in the 1977 Klamath Falls nightclub shooting? I've only been able to find it referenced as a .223 semi-automatic rifle. Presumably it was a mini-14 or ar-15 pattern though it could also be others. I have been able to find the docket number of the case, 790832929 in county Klamath, defendant Henry, Dewitt C court date 12/19/1979, in the Multnomah County Circuit Court. Fanccr (talk) 13:51, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It is possible that the make and model was never recorded. In those days the caliber was considered much more important than the make or model. Blueboar (talk) 19:31, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Presumably in the court or police documents there will be note of the model gun used... Fanccr (talk) 20:17, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The Curse of the AR-15 says that it was one of those. Alansplodge (talk) 21:07, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
A footnote at our Crandon shooting#Notes article says:
A Colt AR-15 Sporter was first used in a mass shooting by Dewitt Henry, the killer in the mass shooting at Uncle Albert's Lounge in Klamath Falls, Oregon on July 23, 1977. AR-15s were also used by Alvin King in 1980 and Carl Drega in 1997. Data Source: The Violence Project Mass Shooter Database, Version 8.
Alansplodge (talk) 21:49, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Fanccr (talk) 13:36, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Who were the three people killed by Mossad in Switzerland on Jan. 12 1974?

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In the article Mossad assassinations following the Munich massacre it mentions that on Jan 12th '74 three people were murdered by Mossad in Switzerland. Could someone try to find Swiss sources, or any newspaper articles or anything about it? There is, for instance, another wikipedia article on mass shootings in Switzerland which mentions a mass shooting of 2 on Jan second, but it seems unrelated. Fanccr (talk) 14:04, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The source for that information is given as "Hunter, Thomas B. – Wrath of God: The Israeli Response to the 1972 Munich Olympics Massacre", but there is no bibliographical information to say whether that source is a book, a newspaper article or something else. Googling that title together with Thomas B. Hunter brings nothing up, but I did find this, which appears to be a graduate thesis, but under the name of Alexander Calahan not Thomas Hunter. The thesis gives a bit more information about the incident, including that it took place in the town of Sargans, but further information is hard to come by. I searched an online archive of Swiss newspapers without success. --Viennese Waltz 14:50, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! It kinda seems like there isn't much to support the claim. Knowing the town where it's claimed to have taken place is great. That should make it much easier to clear up. I was wondering if it took place in a Mosque or in a Christian Church. Just as a shot in the dark, I'd guess that it's more probable that there are Christian churches in Sargans. I'm a little more skeptical that there might have been a Mosque there in 1974. Fanccr (talk) 15:11, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thomas B. Hunter is this guy, "Thomas Byron Hunter". According to this his parents used the surname Werner. DuncanHill (talk) 17:56, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The claim about Switzerland, and the enigmatic Hunter source, were added in this edit by User:Reenem in 2011. I shall ask them if they have any details about the source, as its only google traces are our article, mirrors, and discussion fora quoting us. DuncanHill (talk) 18:13, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The Hunter paper is Hunter, Thomas B. (2001). "Wrath of God". The Journal of Counterterrorism & Security International. 7 (4). The International Assosication for Counterterrorismm & Security Professionals.. fiveby(zero) 18:52, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
George Jonas in Vengeance puts it in a church in Glarus, Switzerland pp. 245-54, but states in a footnotes: I could find no record in the German-language Swiss press of the incident and As in the Glarus case, consideration of security precluded a direct inquiry from the authorities. My sources agreed to cooperate on condition that no police or security forces would be alerted to research being done on the subject. As a result, I can back up certain contentions in this account only by my faith in sources whose accuracy I could verify in other respects. fiveby(zero) 16:51, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"My sources told me not to check my sources" DuncanHill (talk) 18:22, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"Verifiability not truth" has a longer provenance that we thought  :) Fortuna, imperatrix 11:32, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

However, our investigations show that Aviv never served in Mossad, or any Israeli intelligence organisation. He had failed basic training as an Israeli Defence Force commando, and his nearest approximation to spy work was as a lowly gate guard for the airline El Al in New York in the early 70s. The tale he had woven was apparently nothing more than a Walter Mitty fabrication.

— Melman, Yossi; Hartov, Steven (January 6, 2006). "Munich: fact and fantasy". The Guardian.
and more on Juval Aviv from Snopes and "Secret Agent Schmuck" from Village Voice. fiveby(zero) 19:46, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This thesis about Gabriel Allon describes Glarus (like Lillehamer) as a "fiasco", and says the victims were three security guards. In one of the Gabriel Allon books the character says "I also know what happened in Switzerland" to a character clearing up the mess made by Michael Harari. DuncanHill (talk) 19:04, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"I speak for sixty thousand dead"

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At the Paris Peace Conference the Australian prime minister Billy Hughes clashed with the American president Woodrow Wilson over the fate of German New Guinea. Wilson asked Hughes if he meant to defy the whole civilised world, "That’s about the size of it Mr President" Hughes replied. Wilson then reminded him that he spoke for only a few million Australians. Hughes answered "I speak for sixty thousand dead. How many do you speak for?" I am looking for good, early sources for the exchange. Thank you, DuncanHill (talk) 23:40, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You may be able to find something in Trove, an Australian newspaper archive.[1]-Gadfium (talk) 23:45, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I get that you're looking for primary sources—primary as in the meaning in humanities and mainly history—but note that according to Paris Peace Conference (1919–1920)#Mandates, it's "represent", not "speak for". Aaron Liu (talk) 23:47, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Lloyd George mentions the exchange in his memoir of the conference, but does not include the "sixty thousand dead" remark. Zacwill (talk) 13:22, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The earliest Google could find me was from Samoanische Zeitung of 1 September 1922:
Australia's Prime Minister, Mr. W. M. Hughes, had a busy day in Sydney one Saturday. He draws crowds wherever he goes, and his speeches are not less characteristic for humour and apt remarks than they were in the times before he was within reach of Prime Ministership. One of the speakers at a meeting he attended at Crow's Nest, a Sydney suburb, reminded the audience of a particularly telling retort he made to President Wilson of the United States, who questioned the status at the Peace Conference of a representative of a hundred millon people with one vote with that of a man representing five millions given the same. "I don't represent five million people," said Mr. Hughes, "I represent sixty thousand dead! How many dead do you represent?" — Sydney Mail.
There were almost as many results for the "speak for" variant, but none so early.
Alansplodge (talk) 21:26, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Given American politics at the time… I am sure quite a lot of dead people voted for Wilson. Blueboar (talk) 21:34, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
For reference, the numbers of fatal casualties suffered by the two countries in the First World War were, according to one source: USA 116,516, Australia 61,966.
Considered as inter–national ratios:
100,000,000:5,000,000 = 20:1,
116,516:61,966 = approx 2:1.
Considered as proportions of populations:
116,516/100,000,000 = 1 in 858,
61,966/5,000,000 = 1 in 81.
The point Hughes was making would have been fairly obvious to everyone. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.192.251.148 (talk) 17:00, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Per World War I casualties. USA combat deaths + MIA 53,402, Australia combat deaths + MIA 61,527. DuncanHill (talk) 17:09, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting: from this table, essentially all Australia's Total Military Deaths were Combat Deaths or Missing in Action, whereas the USA's TMDs (roughly the figure I used) were more than twice its CD+MiA. This would have made Hughes' rejoinder even more pointed. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.192.251.148 (talk) 19:52, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

June 27

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Help finding US census data page

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So I found https://data.census.gov/table?t=-4000A&g=160XX00US0684550, which shows the percentage of different Asian groups in the city of Westminster, California at the 2020 census. I also have https://data.census.gov/table/DECENNIALPL2020.P1?g=160XX00US0684550, which shows the breakdown into larger groups (White, Black, Native American, Asian, Pacific Islander, Other). How do I find a page that will show the complete breakdown into specific ethnic groups for a location? FakeHouses (talk) 19:46, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know what you mean by "specific ethnic groups". These six are the only racial categories on the census: Race and ethnicity in the United States census. There is no data from the US Census that breaks it down further. Aaron Liu (talk) 13:21, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I looked at the questionnaire. There's also question 8 about Hispanic origins, and in question 9 you're asked to "print origins" after checking boxes, to specify whether you belong for instance to the Nome Eskimo Community. They collected all that extra specific written data.  Card Zero  (talk) 14:53, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hispanic is a different dimension considered completely separate from race here (it can even be combined with any of the races), but you're right that I was mistaken. The detailed race breakdowns are actually all in the first link FakeHouses found and mentioned; you just have to filter for all races: https://data.census.gov/table?t=-00&g=160XX00US0684550&d=DEC+Detailed+Demographic+and+Housing+Characteristics+File+A Aaron Liu (talk) 15:13, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Aaron Liu Thank you; I didn't know how to find that. Do you know if it's possible to have them appear on separate rows instead of separate columns? FakeHouses (talk) 19:41, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
i didn't know either lol. That's what the "Transpose" button seems to do; no idea why columns are the default either. Aaron Liu (talk) 22:01, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Prince Arthur's Death

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I was reading today that in relation to King John (play), nobody knows the location of the scenes surrounding prince Arthur's death. And I was wondering why history does not help. Was there a real prince Arthur? If so do we know where and how he died? Or was his death so different from Shakespeare's depiction that it gives no clue to the fictional setting? AndyJones (talk) 13:10, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Yes, there was a real Prince Arthur. And, no, history does not record the details of how he died. See: Arthur I, Duke of Brittany. Blueboar (talk) 13:42, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • Fascinating, thank you. Odd that Rouen Castle is not one of the places speculated as a location in my copy of King John, which only suggests places in England. AndyJones (talk) 14:01, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      FWIW, in my non-scholarly and un-annotated copy of The Complete Works . . . .
      ACT IV Scene I opens in NORTHAMPTON. A Room in the Castle with the imprisoned Arthur;
      Scene II in The same. A Room of State in the Palace with King John and others;
      Scene III at The same. Before the Castle. Enter Arthur, on the Walls.
      Arthur. "The wall is high, and yet I will leap down:—
      (seven more lines)" [Leaps down.
      "Oh me! My uncle's spirit is in these stones:—
      Heaven take my soul, and England keep my bones" [Dies.
      Clearly, then, Shakespeare portrays Arthur dying at Northampton Castle. In his day probably he, and certainly most of his audience, would not have had access to as much historical data as we now do, and in any case he would not have hesitated to bend facts with dramatic licence to make the play work better.
[Edited to add] At the time of the actual events, the Angevin Empire was split over England and the Continent, with the latter being more important to its ruling Plantagenet dynasty. Naturally events relevant to this story occurred in both (and Arthur's death, most likely, in Normandy). By Shakespeare's time, 400 years later, the Continental holdings were mostly lost and his audience was focussed mainly on England, so compacting all the action to take place in England, and mostly in the same location, made dramatic sense.
{The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.192.251.148 (talk) 17:40, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Not exactly a modern source, but The New Royal Readers (1884) p.252 says:
Arthur, having been sent to England, is imprisoned in Northampton Castle. (Historically this is not true. Arthur was first sent to Falaise, then to Rouen; but Shakespeare's arrangement of the play requires the scene to be laid in England.)
The The Oxford and Cambridge Shakespeare, with notes (1881) p. vi says:
The deviations from history are great in this play.
It goes on to give the account from Holinshed's Chronicles, in Shakespeare's time considered to be a definitive history.
Alansplodge (talk) 11:13, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

June 30

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Moab's patriarchs

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(Courtesy link - Lot (biblical person) DuncanHill (talk) 21:50, 30 June 2025 (UTC))[reply]
Was Lot considered a patriarch by the Moabites themselves?Rich (talk) 02:28, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not finding any reference that Lot was considered a biblical patriarch at all. 196.50.199.218 (talk) 07:48, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't ask if he was a Biblical patriarch.Rich (talk) 09:55, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As I understand it, the only written record of Lot is the Book of Genesis, the narrative of which is covered in our article, but the primary source is the Book of Genesis, chapters 11–14 & 19. Anything else would be conjecture. Alansplodge (talk) 11:24, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Lot is a figure peculiar to the scriptures of the Abrahamic religions which developed from Yahwism, which was a derived variety of the ancient Canaanite religion.
Scholars consider the stories of Abraham to be a 'late literary construction' in writings (the Torah) composed around the time of the Persian restoration following the end of the Judahites' Babylonian captivity in the late 6th century BCE, long post-dating the emergence around the 12th century BCE of the Israelites and Judahites from the Caananite culture which included the Moabites.
Even if the compilers of the Torah had utilised existing Abrahamic folk myths that included the figure of Lot, it seems unlikely that the Moabites, not being Abrahamic, would have shared those particular myths. That said, we have only a limited amount of evidence about specifically Moabite religious beliefs and, as far as I can tell, virtually none at all about their folk myths. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.192.251.148 (talk) 19:31, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
See also Hinduism and Judaism § Theological similarities, in particular regarding the parallels between the Upanishads and the Abraham legend.  ​‑‑Lambiam 21:05, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The Bible doesn't consider Lot a patriarch, at least of Israel, but it says in effect that he was an ancestor of the people of Moab. One conceivable possibility, at least, is mention, even on a potsherd, of Lot in Jordanian archaeological digs, which would be much needed support of the currently widely doubted Old Testament.Rich (talk) 23:42, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Most likely, a Moabite asked about how they saw Lot would have replied with the Moabite-language equivalent of "Lot? Never heard of." Note that the "need" of the "much needed support" strongly represents a particular, non-neutral point of view. There are others who feel that more support is needed for the interpretation of the narratives of the Old Testament as a collection of myths, so as to counter the still widely held mistaken view of these narratives as being historically accurate.  ​‑‑Lambiam 05:44, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Of course. I figured we were already on the same page on that.Rich (talk) 21:48, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The island on Lock Muick

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Despite the claims of Wikipedia (and Google, which in its AI tosh says there isn't, presumably because it's read Wikipedia), there is an island on Loch Muick in Aberdeenshire. You can see it on Google here. The Scots Magazine for 1 July 1970 also mentions it, as a place where Sandy Campbell, the stalker at Glas-allt-Shiel (variously spelt) in Queen Victoria's time, grew potatoes. I would like to know a) what is the island's name, and b) anything else at all you can tell me about it. Thank you, DuncanHill (talk) 21:47, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Ordnance Survey name book mentions the island in its entry for Loch Muick: "Towards the west end of [the loch], there is a small island, on which seagulls are always found." There is a picture of it here. No seagulls are in evidence, however. Zacwill (talk) 23:16, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Annoyingly, the Infobox entry of 'Islands 0' is referenced to a respectable source, which however contains only the same (evidently erroneous) entry, so could easily be a typo or blunder. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.192.251.148 (talk) 08:15, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The Ordnance Survey show it (but unnamed) on their 1:25,000 map, but not on their 1:50,000 map. A modern photograph is here. My Googling abilities have failed to find anything else. Alansplodge (talk) 17:39, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It is also shown on the Six-Inch to One Mile OS map for Aberdeenshire, Sheet CVII, surveyed in 1866 and revised in 1900, but alas remains nameless. Alansplodge (talk) 17:52, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The Ordnance Survey Name Book for Aberdeen county is also a redoubtable source. There is no obligation to incorporate information in Wikipedia from sources, however well-respected, that is evidently incorrect.  ​‑‑Lambiam 12:37, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've changed it, citing OL53. WP:ORMEDIA says straightforward reading of a map is not OR if done correctly. AlmostReadytoFly (talk) 12:31, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

July 1

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Identify Kuala Lumpur high-rises

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Would someone be able to identify the cluster of three sinuous buildings in the foreground of skyscrapercity.com/attachments/274530710_1006930033566857_6495661088138170893_n-1-jpg.2831865/ please, as searching for it or prithipal pannu didn't yield anything useful?

Thanks, cmɢʟeeτaʟκ 12:40, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Arte Mont Kiara in Jalan Sultan Haji Ahmad Shah, Kuala Lumpur Stanleykswong (talk) 15:47, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved
Thanks, Stanley. Good spot! cmɢʟeeτaʟκ 13:11, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

July 2

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Unknown writers

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Hi, I was looking for information about Kyla Stone and James Hunt who are supposed to be writers of dystopian fiction, but I can't find any information on Wikipedia. From Amazon, Kyla Stone is the million-copy USA Today Bestselling Author of 24 novels. Yann (talk) 17:26, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Both names have entries in ISFDB, (which is here), though that of James Hunt is minimal – 1 poem in 1993 – so it's probably not the same person. ISFDB is also a Wiki, so (as you know, Yann, but other readers might not) not a Reliable source for Wikipedia's own purposes.
Stone's only publisher, Paper Moon Press, appears to have published no other Speculative Fiction author from 2017 (and only 5 works by others, back in 1994–5), so probably she is in effect self-published. Such writers are often not written about, or their works reviewed, in Reliable sources, so it's very doubtful she would qualify as Notable, and therefore for a Wikipedia article. It's telling that despite writing SF, she hasn't appeared on the online Science Fiction Encyclopedia (which I occasionally contribute to and consult daily, so know it's generally fairly up to date on authors of any significance).
Speaking generally, generating a million sales in total from more than 2 dozen titles published electronically over 8 years is not particularly spectacular, and it's easy to make a title qualify as a 'best seller' if its genre category is defined restrictively enough. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.210.159.137 (talk) 23:08, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your reply. I didn't intend to create articles, but I was surprised not to find any mention of them. Your analysis explains why. Yann (talk) 16:32, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
More English language novels are published in a single year these days, than during the entire Victorian era. Trying to comprehend this landscape is challenging. -- GreenC 21:43, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

July 5

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inescutcheon-ception

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These arms of Nassau-Fulda contain an inescutcheon on an inescutcheon on an inescutcheon (on an escutcheon). Does anyone know of heraldic arms which have even more 'scutcheonception going on? -sche (talk) 23:01, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting observation. As a bonus question, are there arms that have an equal degree of 'scutcheonception', but more differing quarters (since the inner inescutcheon is not quartered and the next is 'first and fourth, second and third')? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.210.159.137 (talk) 01:05, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Wikimedia Commons has categories up to 5 inescutcheons. In the 5 inescutcheon category it seems that none of the arms have any nesting (at least, as far as I could tell; at that level of inescutcheoning it's a bit hard for my eyes to parse.) In the 4 inescutcheons category the only arms matching the level of nesting seen with Nassau-Fulda are those corresponding to Philip Mountbatten (1947-1949). These are based on the equally triple-nest-escutcheoned royal arms of Greece (1936-1973), which also happen to be the only other triple-nesting I could find in the 3 inescutcheons category. GalacticShoe (talk) 02:35, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

July 6

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primo.exlibrisgroup.com

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while researching Ketti Gallian, I found:

Hilton, Louise G. (Spring 2021). "French Actors and the Hollywood Studio System: The Case of Ketti Gallian, 1934–1937". Film History. 33 (1). Indiana University Press: 1–45. doi:10.2979/filmhistory.33.1.01. JSTOR filmhistory.33.1.01. Retrieved 6 July 2025.

and this MIT resource:

https://mit.primo.exlibrisgroup.com/discovery/fulldisplay?context=PC&docid=cdi_proquest_journals_2518468297&lang=en&search_scope=all&tab=all&vid=01MIT_INST%3AMIT

it seems useful to others

Piñanana (talk) 07:38, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

July 7

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Epstein CCTV footage released by the Department of Justice

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I keep seeing news that the FBI / DoJ have released 11 hours of CCTV depicting Epstein's prison cell. But as far as i can tell none of these news sites tells me where the CCTV have been released

I found a video of most of the CCTV on YouTube. Unfortunately it's useless as it comes with a giant ugly watermark and pointless text commentary edited in

Does anyone know where the original CCTV footage was released? Trade (talk) 22:29, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure where to find it but according to the NYT, a reliable secondary source that has reviewed it, the "video appears to be missing a minute just before midnight. The digital clock on the screen jumps from 11:58:58 p.m. to 12:00 a.m. Officials did not immediately have an explanation for the apparent gap." -- GreenC 22:59, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

July 8

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When the FBI releases a wanted poster and the copyright of the photos belongs to a third party who does not work for the agency are they (FBI) required to get permission form the photographer before they can distribute his photo(s)? I have not been able to find any policy which states they are required to obtain permission from the photographer. But i also find it hard to believe that a photographer can lose the rights to his works just because the FBI wants to distribute them--Trade (talk) 03:42, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Do you know of any examples? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots04:04, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
See fair use. 196.50.199.218 (talk) 05:06, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The wanted poster released for the 2025 shootings of Minnesota legislators features a photo taken from the official website of the accused. That's just one out of many Trade (talk) 08:07, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Copyright owners do not lose their rights by unauthorized (or, for that matter, properly licensed) republishing.  ​‑‑Lambiam 08:08, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

July 9

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Misinformation

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July 10

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