Template:Did you know nominations/Le Cinq
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 11:38, 7 August 2025 (UTC)
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Le Cinq
- ... that a viral review of Le Cinq (dining room pictured) described it as decorated in "taupe, biscuit, and fuck you"?
- ALT1: ... that Le Cinq (dining room pictured) made "the world's most feared restaurant critic" wonder what he could do to it with "a can of kerosene and a box of matches"?
- ALT2: ... that a viral review of Le Cinq (dining room pictured) came with pictures of "piles of slime on plates"?
- ALT3: ... that "the world's most feared restaurant critic" was made "eye-gougingly, bone-crunchingly, teeth-grindingly angry" by Le Cinq (dining room pictured)?
- ALT4: ... that a viral review of Le Cinq (dining room pictured) has been described as "worth a read, in a craning-your-neck-to-look-at-a-very-expensive-car-crash kind of way"?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Operators and Things
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Launchballer 19:54, 29 June 2025 (UTC).
Hooks are properly cited and are quite interesting and funny. Article is well written. Passing. Arconning (talk) 08:22, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer and Arconning:, please either move this article to Jay Rayner's review of Le Cinq, as the current article is more about it than the restaurant, or remove the bloated unencyclopedic mess of the fourth paragraph of "History". ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:38, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: Ough I guess that's true, I guess it's your final call on what to do. Arconning (talk) 16:27, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer and Arconning:, please either move this article to Jay Rayner's review of Le Cinq, as the current article is more about it than the restaurant, or remove the bloated unencyclopedic mess of the fourth paragraph of "History". ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:38, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- A restaurant with three Michelin stars deserves its own article, so have trimmed the paragraph (I left the last sentence but would not contest its removal). I need longer to decide whether the review itself also deserves its own article.--Launchballer 16:43, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- I split this; ALT0, ALT2, ALT4, and to a lesser extent ALT3 would work as a double hook, and my new QPQ is 2025 Chennai Super Kings season. (Hmmm, can I get Jay Rayner through WP:GARC in five weeks...)--Launchballer 14:17, 23 July 2025 (UTC)
- A restaurant with three Michelin stars deserves its own article, so have trimmed the paragraph (I left the last sentence but would not contest its removal). I need longer to decide whether the review itself also deserves its own article.--Launchballer 16:43, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- ALT0a: ... that a viral review by Top Chef Masters judge Jay Rayner (pictured) described Le Cinq as decorated in "taupe, biscuit, and fuck you"?
- ALT1a: ... that the Top Chef Masters judge Jay Rayner (pictured) was dubbed "the world's most feared food critic" after writing a viral review of Le Cinq?
- ALT2a: ... that a viral review of Le Cinq by Top Chef Masters judge Jay Rayner (pictured) came with pictures of "piles of slime on plates"?
- ALT3a: ... that the Top Chef Masters judge Jay Rayner (pictured) wrote a viral review of Le Cinq because he was "eye-gougingly, bone-crunchingly, teeth-grindingly angry"?
- ALT4a: ... that a viral review of Le Cinq by Top Chef Masters judge Jay Rayner (pictured) has been described as "worth a read in a craning-your-neck-to-look-at-a-very-expensive-car-crash kind of way"?
My new QPQs are Danan: The Jungle Fighter and John Schulman; full review needed for the three new articles. Rayner's birthday is on 14 September, so I may put in a date request at WT:DYK.--Launchballer 01:57, 3 August 2025 (UTC)
- Not a review, but ALT1a sounds like the best option here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:02, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
I love multi-hooks and these are all hilarious, Launchballer. Jay Rayner's review of Le Cinq is one of the topics that definitely belong on Wikipedia, yet few would think of writing about. The article has been tagged with Template:Non-free by Tbhotch, but there is no discussion of it on the talk page. Could we straighten this out here? Should we say in wikivoice that "he had been irritated by people moaning about the cost of eating out"? Reference #4 is just a link with a title, nearly a bare URL reference. I am not sure if the article can count as new: the entire content was split from Le Cinq a month after that article was created and nominated here. Other than that, length and sources pose no problems, and I particularly like how the article balances different POVs.
The Jay Rayner GA nomination passed on 2 August, so that certainly counts as new. Unsurprisingly, it is also long enough and the sources are impeccable. Neither Earwig nor my spot checks have uncovered any paraphrasing issues.
Top Chef Masters was recently and sufficiently expanded. The sources check out and I have not been able to detect any close paraphrasing. I wonder why the date and cause of Floyd Cardoz's death is relevant to the article. Surtsicna (talk) 09:40, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- I changed moaning, trimmed Cardoz's death, and filled out some URLs. Per WP:DYKSPLIT, "Articles split from new articles or articles with active nominations remain eligible". As for the tag, I removed some of the smaller quotes, but I think the rest are justified and would invite Tbhotch to explain themself.--Launchballer 11:06, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- I did not know about WP:DYKSPLIT. Thank you. All that's left now is to see what Tbhotch has to say. Surtsicna (talk) 19:19, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- The article now looks different from what I read yesterday. Now around 15% of the article is quoted, which is not as bad as the 30% from yesterday. (CC) Tbhotch™ 21:02, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks. (Not quite sure how Airship's removal of the quote box is justified under WP:LIMITED, but if it gets the tag off then fine I guess?)--Launchballer 22:36, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
That's all settled then. I cannot honestly say which of these hilarious hooks I consider best. I'd better leave that to the promoter. Like Narutolovehinata5 noted, ALT1a might be the safest choice. Surtsicna (talk) 07:29, 7 August 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks. (Not quite sure how Airship's removal of the quote box is justified under WP:LIMITED, but if it gets the tag off then fine I guess?)--Launchballer 22:36, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- The article now looks different from what I read yesterday. Now around 15% of the article is quoted, which is not as bad as the 30% from yesterday. (CC) Tbhotch™ 21:02, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- I did not know about WP:DYKSPLIT. Thank you. All that's left now is to see what Tbhotch has to say. Surtsicna (talk) 19:19, 5 August 2025 (UTC)