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    It is important to note that there is no such thing as "LGBTQ". It is 2 completely unrelated groups of people classified as 1 almost entirely by the latter. Inside of my opinion, this should definitely be addressed at some point, although I don't know how. Kelpor (talk) 06:10, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    This has been discussed at great length across multiple WP talk pages and the relevant WikiProject. I don't think you'll find any change in consensus on this matter. Read the archives over at Talk:Queer, for example. Lewisguile (talk) 08:19, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    If this is an "LGB without the T" argument, you're going to make no headway here. — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite 12:16, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    It certainly is that argument, because claiming that "queer" has no overlap with "lesbian, gay, bisexual" is absurd.
    The existence of a united queer community that includes variations of people who are non-heterosexual, non-cisgender, and non-allosexual goes back decades, whether any individual likes it or not. And unfortunately, Gay and transgender people are targeted by this conspiracy theory, so the inclusion of both is necessary. EllieDellie (talk) 21:04, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Semi-protected edit request on 11 May 2025

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    The wording of the short description is weird: "Conspiracy theory falsely accusing LGBTQ people of child grooming". The "falsely" part doesn't even make sense. The allegation itself can't be "false" when it is also a conspiracy theory 2A02:810D:BC82:1E00:6405:BFB4:1083:59C0 (talk) 23:39, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

     Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Ringo62 (talk) 00:07, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Are you drunk or something? What even is this reply, and how is it related to my comment? 2A02:810D:BC82:1E00:6405:BFB4:1083:59C0 (talk) 00:46, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    "Falsely accusing" means making a false accusation or assertion about someone or something. The short description is written in correct English grammar. I am not sure what you mean when you say it "doesn't even make sense", but it stands as it is. Ringo62 (talk) 00:59, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    It doesn't make any sense when combined with "conspiracy theory". If it's a "false allegation", why is it also a conspiracy theory? Why is there a need for a conspiracy theory when it's already "proven false"? The article also doesn't call it false, so why does the short description? 2A02:810D:BC82:1E00:6405:BFB4:1083:59C0 (talk) 01:12, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    The article does mention that it's false, several times. MrOllie (talk) 01:26, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    What exactly is a "false conspiracy theory"? That's literally an oxymoron 2A02:810D:BC82:1E00:6405:BFB4:1083:59C0 (talk) 01:32, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    An oxymoron requires a self-contradiction, so no, it 'literally' is not an oxymoron. MrOllie (talk) 01:36, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]