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RM, Iraq War (2014–present) → Iraqi Civil War, Moved to Iraqi Civil War (2014–present), 7 September 2015, discussion
RM, Iraqi-Islamist War → Iraqi Civil War (2014–present), Speedy move, 18 August 2017, discussion
RM, Iraqi Civil War (2014–17) → Iraqi Civil War (2014–present), Moved, 8 November 2017, discussion
RM, Iraqi Civil War (2014–present) → Iraqi Civil War (2014-2017), Not moved, 13 December 2017, discussion
RM, Iraqi Civil War (2014–present) → Iraqi Civil War (2014–2017), Moved, 12 August 2018, discussion
RM, Iraqi Civil War (2014–2017) → ?, Moved to War in Iraq (2013–17), 13 November 2020, discussion
RM, War in Iraq (2013–2017) → Iraq–ISIL War, No consensus, 12 May 2021, discussion
RM, War in Iraq (2013–2017) → War in Iraq (2014–2017), Procedural close, 16 June 2021, discussion
RM, War in Iraq (2013–2017) → War against ISIS in Iraq, Not moved, 21 September 2022, discussion
RM, War in Iraq (2013–2017) → Second Iraq War, Not moved, 19 October 2023, discussion

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Combined death toll problem

So, according to my math, the combined death toll given the numbers in the template, is 217,500 rather than 212,500. Should we correct the figure then? Gorgedweller (talk) 10:11, 16 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Corrected it a while ago. Hope it doesn't hurt 79.164.72.106 (talk) 20:00, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 19 October 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure). Jenks24 (talk) 11:21, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

War in Iraq (2013–2017) → Second Iraq War – The proposed title is more recognizable and understandable to the readers. It is precise as well as more concise than the current lengthier title. "Second Iraq War" is also the more popular common name than the current title. (Ngram search results) . Some readers could be confused by the current title and equate it with the war waged by the United States in Iraq during 2003-2011, which is known as the Iraq war. Shadowwarrior8 (talk) 03:12, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support – Per Shadowwarrior8's reasoning for the move. GWA88 (talk) 19:09, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. The Google Ngrams you cite are misleading. "War in Iraq" is much more common than "Second Iraq War".[1] Rreagan007 (talk) 19:33, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support. it not only looks nicer, but is more accurate Lukt64 (talk) 21:32, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support. The current title is wordy and confusing. KD0710 (talk) 03:49, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Firstly, if we extend the above ngram back,[2] we find the term "Second Iraq War" has been in vogue all the way back to about 2001, and peaked in 2007, so it doesn't particularly refer to the period under discussion in this article. Indeed, I'm not seeing that the term has a precise and agreed meaning at all, particularly as a proper name, - in some cases it refers to the 2003 Iraq War itself, with the Gulf war as the first, in others it refers to something else. As RReagan notes, the common name remains War in Iraq, with the year range simply serving as a disambiguator to clearly separate it from other eras. The idea that this is "confusing" is baffling frankly. — Amakuru (talk) 05:11, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Amakuru. Koopinator (talk) 13:47, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, current name fits better because Iraq had so many wars that "second Iraq war" is confusing and misleading. Shadow4dark (talk) 07:52, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Rename the article

Should we perhaps rename the article to Iraqi civil war, or should we say, second Iraqi civil war, just like Syrian civil war and first and second Libyan civil war? Iuiopaz (talk) 16:34, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please check top templates with previous discussions about the name. Shadow4dark (talk) 17:20, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Casualties in infobox

Bedandbreakfast118, in this edit, you amended the Islamic State casualties from 95,360+ to 98,411+ without an edit summary to explain this. There are four sources cited in support of the figure but these are unchanged as a result of your edit. Would you please explain how this figure is arrived at in respect to the four cited sources. Cinderella157 (talk) 09:16, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Whoever estimated the casualties for the 4 pages added up incorrectly. The new figure, if you look though the sources, is accurate to the combined stated militants who were killed from 2014-2017. Also it might have been me who counted wrong the last time, but I don't remember.(Either way the original original figure was like 129,000 or something which was totally inaccurate so if I had gotten to the 95,000 figure it still would have been an improvement.) Bedandbreakfast118 (talk) 18:19, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

wait no I was wrong I calculated the original figure wrong the total casualties were 129,045. Totally screwed up here, absolutely on me. Will not happen again chief. Bedandbreakfast118 (talk) 18:22, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]