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Dear Hoary,
Sorry for the delayed response, I was away for a while.
I'm not sure that this Talk page is the right place to reply to you, maybe I should have contacted you on your own Talk page? Please let me know.
Thank you for taking your time to look at my draft page of Julia Medyńska, and for letting me know what needs to be fixed. I'm trying to learn to navigate through this Wikipedia world, and I am a freshly minted newbie, so to speak...
Firstly, let me address the first point you made about "the question about conflict of interest." Yes, I was the one who took the picture of Julia. We have mutual friends, and she contacted me to ask if I would come to her studio to take some photographs of her for a magazine article about her. That's when I realised that she didn't have a Wikipedia page, and I thought that she would be a good candidate for starting my first Wikipedia page on my own. I have been thinking for a while about getting involved with this world, and when I saw Julia's work, and read about her accomplishments, I thought she could be my first project. Everybody has to start somewhere :-)
Now, if you tell me that that is a big no-no, and it's considered a conflict of interest, then there is nothing to say, and I will give up this adventure and erase the draft. No need to argue or talk about the other problems that my first page has.
But if you accept and allow me to try to create this page, we will address the other concerns, one after the other. I am here to learn. And I would love to get this page up and running if possible.
Gaboheinrich, thank you for addressing the CoI suspicion. In view of your explanation I'd say that there's nothing to worry about there. Sorry I can't write more now: it's been a long day and I'm exhausted. I should say more in a day or so. -- Hoary (talk) 11:49, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Gaboheinrich, on your "if you [...] allow me to try to create this page": Yes, you may. As a draft reviewer, I had three options: "accept", "decline", and "reject". Simply, "reject" means "Stop it". "Decline" doesn't mean this; it means "you're welcome to keep working on this draft so that it's improved and you can then submit it again". Your task remains the same: Please have the draft demonstrate that she satisfies either WP:ARTIST or, more generally, WP:PERSON. (She doesn't have to satisfy both.) -- Hoary (talk) 08:14, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Hoary, so I have read up on the Wikipedia articles that address the notability etc., and then I went back to my article to see if and how I can defend my point that Medyńska warrants an article in Wikipedia.
So I must prove that she is "worthy of notice", and I will try to do so by showing that she was indeed "published in multiple secondary sources that are reliable". There are two sources of note that are secondary, independent, and reliable. Firstly, Contemporary Lynx Magazine is an international art magazine that focuses on the art industry and visual culture of Poland. It's been around and is very well respected here in Poland. And they wrote an article on Medyńska's first Museum show after she returned here. The article is linked under Reference #5 in her draft article (https://contemporarylynx.co.uk/paintings-by-julia-medynska). The other reliable secondary source has to be the New American Paintings books. The MFA Annual editions come out yearly and are juried to include the breakout stars of today and tomorrow. These editions are well respected and very coveted in the US. The edition with Medyńska in it is currently sold out, but if need be, I could probably try to contact her to see if I could get a scan of her copy (I saw it in her studio when I photographed her). The short online version is referenced as #8 in her draft article (https://www.newamericanpaintings.com/issues/147)
These are my thoughts when it comes to "published in multiple secondary sources that are reliable".
Also, furthermore, I read in the Wikipedia:Notability (people) article, under the title Any biography, that a person is deemed notable if "the person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for such an award several times". Medyńska is a two-time grantee of the Elizabeth Greenshields Foundation Grant, which is a highly sought after grant from that international foundation. She is also a short-listed nominee of the Rema Hort Mann Foundation Grant, one of the most well-known grants in the US for emerging artists.
So, - that is that. All my arguments written down. I hope they will explain my side, and show the reasons to include Julia Medyńska into the world of Wikipedia (and my first Wikipedia article respectively 🙂).
I understand that I am a newbie, and that these arguments might not be enough at the moment. If I have to wait for more sources to develop in the future, I will do so. But I truly hope that it is already enough to prove her notability.
Hello @Hoary, I know you are probably very busy, and one should practice patience when it comes to Wikipedia, but I just wanted to check in to see if you had a chance to take a look at my thoughts above. Thank you! Gaboheinrich (talk) 14:11, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Gaboheinrich, remember that "notability", as understood here, has nothing to do with value. So it is that many worthwhile artists aren't "notable" (whereas Thomas Kinkade and Jon McNaughton are among those who are "notable"). I recognize that Julia Medyńska has a certain degree of "notability"; I don't think it's sufficient. Other reviewers may disagree. You're free to submit the draft again; if you do, I'll recuse myself and let another reviewer consider it. -- Hoary (talk) 08:49, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you @Hoary! I'll wait a couple of weeks, maybe she'll have another show, or article. I might try again after that. And again, thank you for your help, and especially for your time! Gaboheinrich (talk) 09:01, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
